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From: "Joseph D. Wagner" <theman@josephdwagner.info>
To: "'Jamie Lokier'" <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "'maximilian attems'" <janitor@sternwelten.at>,
	<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Does sendfile() copy extended attributes?
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:31:53 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000001c3c7f9$16e052d0$0201a8c0@joe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031221115028.GG3438@mail.shareable.org>

> I think you read what I wrote the wrong way.  Let me rephrase it:
> How can you know that function does not call an external program to
> perform its action?

Again, sendfile() is a KERNEL function.

> There actually are a few functions in the C library which work by
> calling external programs - grantpt is one I think - and it's not
> mentioned in the manual page (because it's an implementation detail).
> 
> Actually I agree with you that calling external programs is a big
> risk.  It should be done carefully in security conscious code.
> However you are deluded to imagine that calling functions in the C
> library is automatically safe from the those risks.  That must be done
> carefully as well.

Thanks for the heads up.  But a library function is at least SAFER -- not totally SAFE but SAFER than an external program -- right?

I view security as a process, not an end result.  Minimizing the risk, not eliminating the risk altogether, is my goal; hence, the question about a library function call being safer than an external program.

Joseph D. Wagner


  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-21 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-14 17:39 Does sendfile() copy extended attributes? Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-15  5:43 ` Shaya Potter
2003-12-15  5:46   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-15  5:49     ` Shaya Potter
2003-12-15  5:55       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-15  5:59         ` Shaya Potter
2003-12-15 17:16 ` Bryan Henderson
2003-12-15 20:15   ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-15 21:28     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-16  4:28       ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-19 16:37         ` maximilian attems
2003-12-20 12:19           ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-20 20:40             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-21 11:01               ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-21 11:50                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-21 19:31                   ` Joseph D. Wagner [this message]
2003-12-21 19:44                     ` Shaya Potter
2003-12-21 19:51                       ` Jamie Lokier

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