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From: <vlad@lrsehosting.com>
To: "'Linux Kernel Mailing List'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: bkbits.net is down
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:46:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002a01c33fe7$e7718e40$0200a8c0@wsl3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1056773286.10255.5.camel@granite>

This is why all my clients get HP 7504a tape drives in their tape servers.
40/80GB tape that can do disaster recovery is a GOOD thing!  :-)

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-----Original Message-----
From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Joshua Penix
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 11:08 PM
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List
Subject: Re: bkbits.net is down


On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 20:19, Larry McVoy wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 08:51:40PM -0400, Scott McDermott wrote:
> > Larry McVoy on Fri 27/06 17:16 -0700:
> > > I don't know if you all realize this but at one point we
> > > had corrupted data in several repositories and the backups
> > > were also shot.
> >
> > ever hear of tapes?
>
> bkbits is 45GB of data and growing.  Tapes are completely impractical,
> that's why we have hot spares.

Boy you do need a good admin :)  Done correctly, tapes are quite
practical for that amount of data.  A LTO or SDLT drive would back the
entire 45GB thing up on a single tape, with room for at least one to two
more full backups.  Granted, you're not going to have tape act as your
hot backup, but it is a good third line of defense.  Plus data backed up
to tape is immune from human or software error that may otherwise affect
the hard-drive based data.

45GB of code is very compressible and I'm sure good chunks of that don't
change on a weekly basis.  I'd imagine you could get a weekly or
bi-weekly full backup to tape in the span of about two hours, and then
do nightly differentials which would probably be only 15 minutes in
length.  A filesystem capable of doing snapshots would ensure
consistency of the repositories on tape and would prevent you from
having to shutdown bkbits while backing up.

--Josh

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-01 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-21 13:58 bkbits.net is down Larry McVoy
2003-06-21 19:09 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-22  0:26   ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-23  5:37     ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-25  1:33       ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-25 17:26         ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-25 17:51           ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 13:33         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-26 21:17         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-06-26 21:21           ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 22:25             ` Jonathan Lundell
2003-06-27 10:53             ` Alan Cox
2003-06-27 14:57               ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-27 15:06                 ` Mike Dresser
2003-06-27 18:30                   ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-06-27 15:44                 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-01 14:50                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-01 17:07                     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-06-27 16:28                 ` nick
2003-06-27 16:37                   ` CaT
2003-06-27 16:54                     ` Alan Cox
2003-06-27 22:12                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-27 22:15                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  8:14                           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-06-28 13:41                             ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-27 23:27                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-27 23:51                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-27 23:55                         ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-06-28  0:16                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  0:51                             ` Scott McDermott
2003-06-28  3:19                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  4:04                                 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-06-28  4:08                                 ` Joshua Penix
2003-06-28  4:21                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  5:42                                   ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-28  5:50                                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  7:33                                   ` David Lang
2003-07-01 15:46                                   ` vlad [this message]
2003-06-28  8:08                                 ` Scott McDermott
2003-06-28 14:07                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28 19:50                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-28 19:14                                 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28 19:18                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28 19:38                                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2003-06-28 19:47                                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28 20:31                                       ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28 20:31                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2003-06-28 20:55                                         ` David Schwartz
2003-06-28 21:00                                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28 21:06                                         ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-06-28 22:15                                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2003-06-28 22:55                                           ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-28 23:13                                           ` Alan Cox
2003-07-01 20:42                                             ` Zed Pobre
2003-06-29  6:24                                         ` Daniel Egger
2003-06-29 10:24                                           ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-06-29 13:14                                             ` Daniel Egger
2003-06-30 15:16                                               ` Andrew Ryan
2003-06-29 15:08                                             ` Brian Jackson
2003-06-28 20:52                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-29 20:18                             ` Pau Aliagas
2003-07-03  5:08                             ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  0:01                         ` Mike Dresser
2003-06-28  0:07                           ` Mike Dresser
2003-06-28  0:24                             ` Mike Dresser
2003-06-26 21:35           ` Joel Jaeggli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-29  3:34 David Brownell
2003-06-29  3:42 Hemmann, Volker Armin
2005-04-12  2:17 Larry McVoy
2005-04-12 11:10 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-12 12:33   ` Alexander Nyberg
2005-04-12 12:38   ` Diego Calleja
2005-04-12 15:19   ` Jesper Juhl
2005-04-12 21:10     ` Toon van der Pas
2005-04-13  9:16       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-04-13 10:55         ` Stefan Smietanowski

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