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From: "Manfred Spraul" <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: "David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Andrea Arcangeli" <andrea@suse.de>, <Ulrich.Weigand@de.ibm.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Deadlock on the mm->mmap_sem
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:18:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002c01c1411e$6cab8950$010411ac@local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5063.1000911094@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com>

>
> I also don't think the hack is that bad. All it's doing is taking a
> copy of the process's VM decription so that it knows that
> nobody is going to modify it whilst a coredump is in progress.

You break the locking scheme of the mm structure.
Right now the rules are

1 get a mm_struct pointer by whatever means (walk the process list and
    read task->mm, walk the mm_list)
2 increase mm_users
3 release the spinlock you acquired for 1
4 you can do with the result what you want.

With your patch applied, we would have to restrict rule 4 - at least
modifying the vma list is not possible anymore, probably further
changes.
AFAIK right now no external mm_struct user modifies the vma list, but it
could be a problem in the future.

>
> However, if you don't like that, how about just changing the lock on
> mm_struct to a special mm_struct-only type lock that has a
> recursive lock operation for use by the pagefault handler (and
> _only_ the pagefault handler)? I've attached  a patch to do just that.
> This introduces five operations:

Does that solve the latency problem? That problem is pagefaults vs.
another operation.

--
    Manfred



  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-20  1:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-17 21:50 Deadlock on the mm->mmap_sem Manfred Spraul
2001-09-17 23:39 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found] ` <200109172339.f8HNd5W13244@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-09-18  0:01   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  7:31     ` Manfred Spraul
2001-09-18  7:55       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  8:18         ` David Howells
2001-09-18  9:32         ` David Howells
2001-09-18  9:37         ` Manfred Spraul
2001-09-18  9:49         ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-09-18 12:53         ` Manfred Spraul
2001-09-18 14:13           ` David Howells
2001-09-18 14:49             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18 15:26               ` David Howells
2001-09-18 15:46                 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18 15:11             ` David Howells
2001-09-18 16:49             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-19  9:51               ` David Howells
2001-09-19 12:49                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 14:08               ` Manfred Spraul
2001-09-19 14:51               ` David Howells
2001-09-19 15:18                 ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
2001-09-19 14:53               ` David Howells
2001-09-19 18:03                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 18:16                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-19 18:27                     ` David Howells
2001-09-19 18:48                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 18:45                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 21:14                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-19 22:07                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 18:19                   ` Manfred Spraul
2001-09-20  2:07                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20  4:37                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20  7:05                       ` David Howells
2001-09-20  7:19                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20  8:01                           ` David Howells
2001-09-20  8:09                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 18:26                   ` David Howells
2001-09-19 18:47                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:25                       ` David Howells
2001-09-19 23:34                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:46                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:24                 ` [PATCH] attempt #2 (Re: Deadlock on the mm->mmap_sem) David Howells
2001-09-19 14:58               ` Deadlock on the mm->mmap_sem David Howells
     [not found] <masp0008@stud.uni-sb.de>
2001-09-20 10:57 ` Studierende der Universitaet des Saarlandes
2001-09-20 12:40   ` David Howells
2001-09-20 18:24   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 21:43     ` Manfred Spraul
2001-09-22 21:06     ` Manfred Spraul
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-18 13:22 Ulrich Weigand
2001-09-17 20:57 Ulrich Weigand

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