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From: "Paul Grun" <pgrun-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
To: 'Or Gerlitz' <or.gerlitz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: 'Roland Dreier' <rdreier-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Or Gerlitz' <ogerlitz-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Liran Liss' <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVS1MOuV/RT9w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Yevgeny Petrilin'
	<yevgenyp-VPRAkNaXOzVS1MOuV/RT9w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Richard Frank'
	<richard.frank-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	'Sean Hefty' <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Linux RDMA list'
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: RE: RDMAoE / lossless Ethernet (ewg: SC'09 BOF - Meeting notes)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:09:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002d01ca842d$4f62cbf0$ee2863d0$@com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15ddcffd0912231417h6e47db36ledbdb2ad6cc66c0e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Or -
The emergence of standards-based lossless Ethernet (DCB) was the
precipitating factor that allowed us for the first time to talk about
running the IB message transport on what had formerly been a lossy network.

That said, there is a distinction to be made between 'works better' and 'is
required in order to work'.  Again, I don't think there is an argument to be
made for REQUIRING the use of DCB as a prerequisite to RoCEE.
Make sense?
-Paul

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From: linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
[mailto:linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Or Gerlitz
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:18 PM
To: Paul Grun
Cc: Roland Dreier; Or Gerlitz; Liran Liss; Yevgeny Petrilin; Richard Frank;
Sean Hefty; Linux RDMA list
Subject: Re: RDMAoE / lossless Ethernet (ewg: SC'09 BOF - Meeting notes)

Paul Grun <pgrun-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> there doesn't appear to be an argument in favor of requiring DCB with
RoCEE

Interesting, the ofa server is down now, so I don't have access to ofa
IBoE materials, from my memory I recall that in ALL of them you have
made the IBoE/CEE bundling very clear & evident, e.g this  IBTA
presentation made to T11 @
http://www.t11.org/ftp/t11/pub/fc/study/09-543v0.pdf

Or.
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-24  0:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <2ED289D4E09FBD4D92D911E869B97FDD01AF10F2-ia22CT07NJfiMCgWhms8HQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23  8:09   ` RDMAoE / lossless Ethernet (ewg: SC'09 BOF - Meeting notes) Or Gerlitz
     [not found]     ` <4B31D048.5040001-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23 15:52       ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]         ` <adahbrh1yd0.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23 22:12           ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]             ` <15ddcffd0912231412y8f6724fh5a7036f30117189e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24  0:46               ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                 ` <adad42519n5.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24  8:40                   ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                     ` <2ED289D4E09FBD4D92D911E869B97FDD0222EFDF-ia22CT07NJfiMCgWhms8HQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24 12:49                       ` Or Gerlitz
2009-12-24 12:25                   ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                     ` <4B335DCD.4080201-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24 15:59                       ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]         ` <001101ca8411$68244b80$386ce280$@com>
2009-12-23 22:17           ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]             ` <15ddcffd0912231417h6e47db36ledbdb2ad6cc66c0e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24  0:09               ` Paul Grun [this message]

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