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From: Fan Li <fanofcode.li@samsung.com>
To: 'Chao Yu' <chao2.yu@samsung.com>, 'Jaegeuk Kim' <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] f2fs: support finding extents after isize
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 13:57:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002d01d146b4$e27808b0$a7681a10$@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <011501d14395$6127a030$2376e090$@samsung.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chao Yu [mailto:chao2.yu@samsung.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:34 PM
> To: 'Fan Li'; 'Jaegeuk Kim'
> Cc: linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/3] f2fs: support finding extents after isize
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fan Li [mailto:fanofcode.li@samsung.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 11:37 AM
> > To: 'Chao Yu'; 'Jaegeuk Kim'
> > Cc: linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/3] f2fs: support finding extents
> > after isize
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chao Yu [mailto:chao@kernel.org]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:28 PM
> > > To: Fan Li; 'Jaegeuk Kim'
> > > Cc: linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/3] f2fs: support finding extents
> > > after isize
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 12/30/15 5:17 PM, Fan Li wrote:
> > > > f2fs allows preallocation beyond isize, but f2fs_fiemap only look
> > > > up extents within isize. Therefore add this support.
> > > >
> > > > Note: It's possible that there are holes after isize, for example,
> > > > fallocate  multiple discontinuous extents after isize with
> > > > FALLOC_FL_KEEP_SIZE set. Since I can tell no differences between
> > > > EOF and holes from return of get_data_block, I'm afaid this patch
> > > > can't support such scenarios.
> > >
> > > As you mentioned, preallocated block beyond isize can be allocated
> > > in f2fs, and we are trying
> > to support mapping extents across
> > > whole data space of inode, so why we treat theses extents inside
> > > i_size and outside i_size
> > separately? IMO, instead using i_size, we
> > > should use max blocks as boundary.
> > >
> > > Most important, this interface still can't support finding all
> > > extents after i_size, which
> > looks buggy for our user.
> >
> > Notice that this issue exists before my patch, by adding this patch,
> > at least now it can support more scenarios such as  fallocate a range
> > right after isize. I'd say it's an improvement.
> 
> Nope, what I'm talking about is *correctness* of our ->fiemap interface, but you're trying to avoid it by saying "support more
cases,
> it's an improvement". That doesn't make any sense to me, since correctness issue still not be fixed.

I'm not sure what you mean by avoiding, I think the comment and reply I written has already stated the issue and 
limitation of this patch.
Now there are two suggestions:
1. support one more scenario, and all old scenarios are dealt like before, but it still can't support discontinuous extent after
isize.
2. support all scenarios, but sacrifice performance for lots of common scenarios by checking about 10^9 blocks.

I think we can all agree both ideas have their flaws.
The only divergence is that I vote the first, and you the second. I think the most important thing is that it works fluently in most
scenarios, and you think is that it works in every scenarios even it's very slow.

I think my method is more pratical, but balance between performance and utility seems to be an Eternal problem.

> 
> >
> > use max blocks as boundary would get us the precise result, but it
> > also means after we reach the EOF, we still need to look up every
> > block between the EOF and  sb-> s_maxbytes to make sure the EOF is
> > true, that's about 4TB or 10^9 blocks.
> > And it affects all scenarios where the search range covers the last
> > extent in the file, not just extents beyond isize. I think this price
> > is too high to pay.
> 
> That's another performance issue.
> 
> >
> > I was hoping that I can make f2fs_map_block return an EOF to solve
> > this problem some time later, or anyone have a better idea?
> 
> At least we can seek valid dnode block like the way llseek use.
> 
> In addition, for most cases, few of i_nid[5] in f2fs_inode will be NULL, we could skip searching all dnode block in such
non-allocated
> indirect node, instead of searching dnode block f2fs_map_block one by one.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Fan li <fanofcode.li@samsung.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  fs/f2fs/data.c |    7 +------
> > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/fs/f2fs/data.c b/fs/f2fs/data.c index
> > > > a9a4d89..f89cf07
> > > > 100644
> > > > --- a/fs/f2fs/data.c
> > > > +++ b/fs/f2fs/data.c
> > > > @@ -798,12 +798,6 @@ int f2fs_fiemap(struct inode *inode, struct fiemap_extent_info *fieinfo,
> > > >  	isize = i_size_read(inode);
> > > >
> > > >  	mutex_lock(&inode->i_mutex);
> > > > -	if (start >= isize)
> > > > -		goto out;
> > > > -
> > > > -	if (start + len > isize)
> > > > -		len = isize - start;
> > > > -
> > > >  	if (logical_to_blk(inode, len) == 0)
> > > >  		len = blk_to_logical(inode, 1);
> > > >
> > > > @@ -829,6 +823,7 @@ next:
> > > >  		 * punch holes beyond isize and keep size unchanged.
> > > >  		 */
> > > >  		flags |= FIEMAP_EXTENT_LAST;
> > > > +		last_blk = start_blk - 1;
> > > >  	}
> > > >
> > > >  	if (size)
> > > >
> >
> >
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Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-30  9:17 [PATCH 2/3] f2fs: support finding extents after isize Fan Li
2015-12-30 13:27 ` Chao Yu
2015-12-31  3:37   ` Fan Li
2015-12-31  6:34     ` Chao Yu
2016-01-04  5:57       ` Fan Li [this message]
2016-01-04  6:55         ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-01-04 11:13           ` Fan Li
2016-01-04 23:14             ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-01-05  2:37               ` Fan Li
2016-01-05  3:08                 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-01-05  7:22                   ` Fan Li
2016-01-05 18:11                     ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-01-05  3:19           ` Chao Yu
2016-01-05  3:29             ` Jaegeuk Kim
2016-01-05  9:36               ` Chao Yu
2016-01-04 10:00         ` Chao Yu
2016-01-04 10:55           ` Fan Li
2016-01-05  3:48             ` Chao Yu

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