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From: Ulf Samuelsson <ulf@atmel.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] Running w/o flash
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:59:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003d01c770fe$fc7b1f80$01c4af0a@Glamdring> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20070327231506.37606353A6C@atlas.denx.de

> Dear Ulf,
> 
> in message <022201c770c3$43d20740$01c4af0a@Glamdring> you wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, but I do not work in the Atmel AT91 Product Line
>> and I believe that they are the ones that should develop this.
>> 
>> However, They have already given up on you and are looking for an 
>> alternative solution.
> 
> I'm sorry to hear that. Is there anybody I could contact  to  try  to
> sort out their problems with me?
> 
> 

Their problem with you is that you ignore patch request.
Not even acknowledgement for 9 months and this was
6 months ago.

This is a systematic problem, which you are trying to fixed by
introducing guardian.

When I now try to resubmit 15 months old code (or older)
you want this to be totally rewritten in a way which is undefined..

I see is a as pointless in even trying, unless you are
prepared to accept at least existing code to be merged

>> >From my point of view, the best approach is that Grant Applies
>> my patches on his local tree and fixes the mess he has put us in.
> 
> Stop, please be fair. Grant is not to blame here.
> 
> The culprit is me. When the Dataflash  code  was  added,  I  did  not
> really  know  what DataFlash is, and I did not take the time to study
> the code thoroughly enough to understand all the implications. It was
> my fault that this code was ever added to the U-Boot tree. If  I  had
> raised my concerns earlier, all of this would have been much easier.
> 

Once you have accepted blame, you do not assume responsibility 
for it, you want to offload all the work to others.
You have no sensibility for other peoples priorities.

If you want to change U-boot, then do so, but only when 
you have a definition of how you want to change that.
Meanwhile there are AT91 customers which spends a lot of time
trying to overcome the problems you are causing by 
a position, which could be significantly different if you
could see it from my (and not unlikely Atmels position)

> But I did not understand this then, and now we have the mess. But this
> mess is my fault, not Grant's.
> 
> Grant is trying to help cleaning up.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Wolfgang Denk
> 
> -- 
> DENX Software Engineering GmbH, HRB 165235 Munich, CEO: Wolfgang Denk
> Office:  Kirchenstr. 5,       D-82194 Groebenzell,            Germany
> Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
> Quote from the Boss... "I didn't say it was your fault.  I said I was
> going to blame it on you."
>

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-28  5:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20070327164440.ABC9435261B@atlas.denx.de>
2007-03-27 17:13 ` [U-Boot-Users] Running w/o flash Ulf Samuelsson
2007-03-27 17:43   ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-03-27 18:02     ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-03-27 20:09       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-03-27 22:55         ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-03-27 23:15           ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-03-28  5:59             ` Ulf Samuelsson [this message]
2007-03-28 13:24               ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-03-27 15:42 Matt Gessner
2007-03-27 16:07 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-03-27 16:05   ` Matt Gessner
2007-03-28 17:35     ` Dave Ellis
2007-03-28 18:25       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-03-28 21:46         ` Dave Ellis
2007-03-28 22:36           ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-03-29 16:47             ` Andy Fleming
2007-03-29 21:58               ` Dave Ellis
2007-03-27 16:35   ` Wolfgang Denk

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