RE: AX25 and related software's future in Debian

["Marius Petrescu" <marius@yo2loj.ro>]

What I said was ironic (probably not enough).
I use those tools and I am happy with them. Just some people in the Debian
group were bothered by the fact that some wannabe script pack wants to use
the name node....
And than it jumped over to the whole ham radio stuff.

Marius, YO2LOJ

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From: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of IT1 Stuart Blake
Tener, USNR
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 02:30
To: Marius Petrescu
Cc: linux-hams@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: AX25 and related software's future in Debian

Marius,

Excuse me but the ham radio apps work just fine for me, so long as nobody
deletes them from distribution. I don't need no stink'in GUI!  
If I did, I'd have given up on Linux and Unix Administration a long time ago
and become a Windows weenie. However, I have always chosen to take the same
posture that my maid does, "I DO NOT DO WINDOWS!"

And if Ham Radio is an obscure activity it is because how many talks were
given on Amateur Radio at Schmoocon? At DEFCON? At places where the hacking
and technical communities stand in congress together?  
Perhaps the issue is marketing.

When last I went to DEFCON I saw an OVERCROWD of people waiting to learn how
to pick a lock, pick a lock I said! Had a decent Ham Radio setup been there,
with HF, Packet, Amateur TV, etc... we'd have likely done well at marketing
our hobby.


Stuart


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Quoting Marius Petrescu <marius@yo2loj.ro>:

> Please take the effort to remember the whole thread...
>
> It started because there was a proposal to rename node from the ax25 
> suite into something else, so that "newcomer" node.js  could be named 
> node instead.
> (What a server side javascript package has with in common with the 
> name node is still a mistery to me, maybe the authors should calle it 
> kernel since the name and function seems to be irelevant and unrelated 
> in their opinion...)
>
> And the idea behind distros like Ubuntu is not about having or not the 
> ax25 package in the distribution, but the issue of CONSISTENCY. It is 
> really idiotic to have "node" an ax25 node communication software as a 
> package in one distro (e.g. Ubuntu) and in another one to have "node" 
> a java script package (talking about Debian where the discussion started).
> Remember this happened before: axmail was just overrun by some After 
> Logic XMail, without any hesitations. But this seems to be the trend...
> For "the clicking generation", ham radio is an obscure activity which 
> just can be trampled down since it does not result in nice pictures on 
> a device with an bitten fruit on it, and packet radio just some 
> obsolete non-important stuff that can be ignored (Duhhhh, ever heard of 3G
and HSDPA?
> Why would you want to use that?).
>
> But again maybe this is a signal to get some fresh wind into ham radio 
> apps, maybe ax.25 in its current concept is really obsolete. And in 
> this case we need to do something about it. Making it maybe a little more
"clickable"...
>
> Marius, YO2LOJ
> proud user of ax.25
>
>
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