From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from jazzband.ncsc.mil (jazzband.ncsc.mil [144.51.5.4]) by tycho.ncsc.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18765 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jazzband.ncsc.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jazzband.ncsc.mil with ESMTP id CAA00434 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 02:41:59 GMT Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by jazzband.ncsc.mil with ESMTP id CAA00427 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 02:41:59 GMT Message-ID: <007801c20c3a$bf5ee920$0200000a@wb1> From: "Paul Wolfson" To: "McFadden, Ken" , "'Russell Coker'" , "JW" , "SE Linux" Cc: "Haigh, Tom" , "'Admissions Office'" , "Carsten Grohmann" , "Paul Wolfson" References: <31A81CDD9175D411815100508BE32AA60142F388@emss02m13.ems.lmco.com> Subject: Outside observer comments Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:43:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-selinux@tycho.nsa.gov List-Id: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov Hello, I recently added myself to the SELinux listserver because of genuine shared concerns about securing open source computing. NSA is correct to be doing this initiative and linux in its evolution will be better for it. Now, from the few dozen emails that have come across my screen are any indication, bickering is counter-productive. It resembles government procurement at its worst. In that atmosphere I am afraid that there is little that I will be able to contribute. My company, is relatively new, but has principal engineers who hold or have held DoD clearance at TS and higher and would be interested in contributing to this effort. If someone on this list is a good POC let me know and perhaps we will be in a position to help. Perhaps this isn't the best forum to post such a blast as this, but its intent at least is well meant. Paul Wolfson, Ph.D. Principal and President Process and System Integration, Inc. PO Box 118524 Carrollton, TX 75011-8524 ----- Original Message ----- From: "McFadden, Ken" To: "'Russell Coker'" ; "JW" ; "SE Linux" Cc: "Haigh, Tom" ; "'Admissions Office'" ; "Carsten Grohmann" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: RE: Sorry, read this one: Re: SELinux Dumb Questions > Once again, We are doing this for NSA and GNU NOT SECURE COMPUTING!!!!!!! > If Tom has a problem <> treat it as GNU per NSA's web page!!!!!!! > -- You have received this message because you are subscribed to the selinux list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@tycho.nsa.gov with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.