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From: James Carlson <carlsonj@workingcode.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Doug Brown <doug@schmorgal.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Jiapeng Chong <jiapeng.chong@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linux-ppp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net: appletalk: remove Apple/Farallon LocalTalk PC support
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 14:11:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0078ff43-f9fa-1deb-b64d-170d3d93ee6f@workingcode.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a3Tj=aJM_-x17uw1yJ-5+DgKX6APgEaO0sa=aRBKya1XQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/11/22 04:23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> indication of appletalk ever being supported there, this all looks
> IPv4/IPv6 specific. There was support for PPP_IPX until it was
> dropped this year (the kernel side got removed in 2018), but never
> for PPP_AT.
> Adding Paul Mackerras to Cc, he might know more about it.

I waited a bit before chipping in, as I think Paul would know more.

The ATCP stuff was in at least a few vendor branches, but I don't think
it ever made it into the main distribution. These commits seem to be
where the (disabled by default) references to it first appeared:

commit 50c9469f0f683c7bf8ebad9b7f97bfc03c6a4122
Author: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Date:   Tue Mar 4 03:32:37 1997 +0000

    add defs for appletalk

commit 01548ef15e0f41f9f6af33860fb459a7f578f004
Author: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Date:   Tue Mar 4 03:41:17 1997 +0000

    connect time stuff gone to auth.c,
    don't die on EINTR from opening tty,
    ignore NCP packets during authentication,
    fix recursive signal problem in kill_my_pg

The disabled-by-default parts were likely support contributions for
those other distributions. (Very likely in BSD.)

I would've thought AppleTalk was completely gone by now, and I certainly
would not be sad to see the dregs removed from pppd, but there was a
patch release on the netatalk package just last month, so what do I know?

(The only possible reason I can see to keep any ATCP bits around at all
is to make sure we can write nice-looking log messages -- to say we're
rejecting "AppleTalk Control Protocol" rather than "unknown 8029." But
that'd be a very minor feature.)

-- 
James Carlson     42.703N 71.076W FN42lq08    <carlsonj@workingcode.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-12 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-09 15:01 [PATCH net-next] net: appletalk: remove Apple/Farallon LocalTalk PC support Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-09 17:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-09 17:32   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-10  2:34     ` Doug Brown
2022-05-10  6:48       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-11  0:20         ` Doug Brown
2022-05-11  8:23           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-12 18:11             ` James Carlson [this message]
2022-05-12 19:21               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-12 19:28                 ` Doug Brown
2022-05-11 12:20 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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