From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1JMWIx-0000Sa-6k for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:30:15 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JMWIv-0000SO-IT for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:30:13 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JMWIt-0000S2-Ui for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:30:13 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JMWIt-0000Rz-PD for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:30:11 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JMWIt-00041u-F5 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:30:11 -0500 Received: from who8 (h-67-101-158-34.nycmny83.dynamic.covad.net[67.101.158.34]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2008020522300811200cjl8ae>; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:30:08 +0000 From: "Gregg C Levine" To: "'The development of GRUB 2'" Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:30:22 -0500 Message-ID: <008b01c86846$b45aad20$6401a8c0@who8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AchoPbgJ3ew1DgTnQRyPZKWzmHO+NgABYcYg In-Reply-To: <1202246757.7569.16.camel@dv> X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetCache Data OnTap 5.x Subject: RE: legal problem with cs89x0 driver X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:30:13 -0000 Hello! This is going to be a real headache. All of his original packet drivers were released under the GPL; the zip files contained on his site actually contain the original text of the = GPL there. The problem for the cs89x0 was that it was written for an actual customer.=20 Ideally the customer should have gone along with releasing it that way. However I suspect that the customer if that name still exists may not = want to be released that way. We do need to contact Mr. Nelson and ask him. Side issue: Robert what mail client are you using this week? It's = causing the messages to arrive here as UTF-8. -- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net "The Force will be with you always." Obi-Wan Kenobi =A0=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: grub-devel-bounces+hansolofalcon=3Dworldnet.att.net@gnu.org [mailto:grub-devel- > bounces+hansolofalcon=3Dworldnet.att.net@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Pavel = Roskin > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:26 PM > To: The development of GRUB 2 > Subject: Re: legal problem with cs89x0 driver >=20 > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 23:52 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > Hi, > > > > What do we do about the cs89x0 driver? Remove it? > > > > https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?20720 >=20 > I suggest that we ask Russell Nelson nicely to change the license to = GPL > v2. If he doesn't answer, or if the answer is anything less than an > unequivocal "yes", the driver should be removed and another version of > GNU GRUB released. >=20 > It's not like it's a clear case of a driver we cannot distribute. A > good and well-paid lawyer could likely find several loopholes allowing > us to distribute the driver. It could be argued that the code is > distributed with the Etherboot package, which is a part of GNU GRUB. = Or > that GPL supersedes the comments in the file. Or that the original = file > was a Linux driver under GPL, and Russell Nelson did not have = exclusive > copyright to relicense it (the Linux driver mentions Donald Becker as > well). >=20 > However, I really doubt it's worth the trouble. Either Russell Nelson > agrees to GPL with no conditions, or the driver is thrown out. If = there > are users who depend on it, it's their problem. Let them care about > licenses, not us. >=20 > -- > Regards, > Pavel Roskin >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Grub-devel mailing list > Grub-devel@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel