All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Eric Barton <eeb@sun.com>
To: lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org
Subject: [Lustre-devel] WBC HLD outline
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:17:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00a001c9b2a2$45665430$d032fc90$@com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200903240058.30343.alexander.zarochentsev@sun.com>

Zam,

Some notes on the WBC HLD outline

1. The requirement is for 32K creates/second on one node of small
   files with a random size of up to 64K.  It's basically HPCS IO
   Scenario 4.

2. Reintegration must change the filesystem from one consistent state
   to another consistent state _atomically_.

3. Not all the updates in a batch for 1 server need to have the same
   epoch number - i.e. being forced to advance your epoch
   (e.g. because you acquired a lock) doesn't force you to create
   a new batch.

   I think this got mentioned in other emails.

4. Most readers won't know what "bulk transfers are used" for batches.

5. Is ensuring file data is delayed until file creation is
   reintegrated sufficient for correct operation?  Are we not
   effectively doing create-on-write with a WBC?  I'm sure there
   are more issues (e.g. orphans).

   Does including the OSTs in epoch recovery solve all the issues?  If
   so, what are the expected bounds on client redo and server undo
   storage?  Can we avoid needing server undo for data with some
   compromises?  Can we exploit the DMU at all?

6. The section on recovering from WBC client death seems imprecise.
   Is (a) just describing V1-4 in Nikita's original post - similarly
   (b) for V1-2, V3'-5'?  Also, for (c) I think we may have discussed
   the possibility of always sending updates as the full operation +
   context to select which updates apply locally so that an operation
   can always be recovered from any of its updates.

    Cheers,
              Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-01  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-23 21:58 [Lustre-devel] WBC HLD outline Alexander Zarochentsev
2009-03-23 23:17 ` Robert Read
2009-03-25  8:17   ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2009-03-25  8:33     ` Alex Zhuravlev
2009-03-25 16:17       ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2009-03-25 16:26         ` Alex Zhuravlav
2009-03-25 16:32         ` Alex Zhuravlav
2009-03-24  5:06 ` Alex Zhuravlev
2009-04-01  8:17 ` Eric Barton [this message]
2009-04-06 10:23   ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2009-04-07  6:18     ` Andreas Dilger
2009-04-07  6:30       ` Alex Zhuravlev
2009-04-07  7:50         ` Nikita Danilov
2009-04-08 16:41           ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2009-04-09  8:58             ` Nikita Danilov
2009-04-09  3:04         ` Oleg Drokin

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='00a001c9b2a2$45665430$d032fc90$@com' \
    --to=eeb@sun.com \
    --cc=lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.