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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
	Eugene Crosser <crosser@average.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Acpi] Re: ACPI fundamental locking problems
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 19:24:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01070719241107.22952@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0107070727030.24836-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu> <9i73bg$psv$1@pccross.average.org> <3B471399.1D6BBED6@mandrakesoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <3B471399.1D6BBED6@mandrakesoft.com>

On Saturday 07 July 2001 15:50, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Eugene Crosser wrote:
> > In article
> > <Pine.GSO.4.21.0107070727030.24836-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>,
> >
> >         Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu> writes:
> > >> Doesn't the approach "treat a chunk of data built into bzImage
> > >> as populated ramfs" look cleaner?  No need to fiddle with tar
> > >> format, no copying data from place to place.
> > >
> > > What the hell _is_ "populated ramfs"? The thing doesn't live in
> > > array of blocks. Its directory structure consists of a bunch of
> > > dentries.
> >
> > I am stupid.  But the point still stays: having an image of
> > pre-populated filesystem (some other than ramfs) that you only need
> > to load into RAM seems more sutable than parsing tar format.  Maybe
> > (probably) I am missing something.
>
> Yeah -- we build all this stuff dynamically.  struct file, struct
> inode, etc.  You could store them on disk as they would be
> represented in memory, but this would be incredibly inefficient
> because of all the runtime structures unnecessary on disk, and
> because of all the fixups and checks you would have to perform on the
> data in the images after they magically appear in memory.

Not to mention internal fragmentation.

> Reading a tarball is the distillation of what you describe into
> efficient form :)

/me downloads tar file definition

Um, gnu tar or posix tar? or some new, improved tar?

--
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-07 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-04 10:37 [Acpi] Re: ACPI fundamental locking problems Dave J Woolley
2001-07-04 11:03 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-04 17:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-05  8:20     ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-05  8:34       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-07-05 11:21       ` Alan Cox
2001-07-05 13:42       ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-05 15:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-06  7:34         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-07-06  8:45         ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-06 11:16           ` Alan Cox
2001-07-06 12:42             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-09 23:05         ` Pavel Machek
2001-07-07 10:32     ` Eugene Crosser
2001-07-07 11:32       ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-07 13:37         ` Eugene Crosser
2001-07-07 13:50           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-07-07 17:24             ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-07-07 21:31               ` Jamie Lokier
2001-07-07 21:44                 ` Steve VanDevender
2001-07-08  7:26                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-08 16:46                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-09 14:40                 ` Anthony DeBoer
2001-07-07 11:34       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-07-07 21:40         ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-07-07 21:54           ` Jamie Lokier
2001-07-07 22:00             ` arjan
2001-07-07 22:15               ` Jamie Lokier
2001-07-07 22:04             ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-07-07 22:14               ` Jamie Lokier
2001-07-08  2:57                 ` Keith Owens
2001-07-12 15:57     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-07-12 16:14       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-07-12 21:18         ` Eric W. Biederman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-06  5:26 Andreas Dilger

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