All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] PowerPC 440EPx: Sequoia DTS
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:53:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <019ae19815eb3301065ba732e3e72f44@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070808011324.GD25082@localhost.localdomain>

>>>> I haven't heard or thought of anything better either.  Using 
>>>> "ranges"
>>>> is conceptually wrong, even ignoring the technical problems that 
>>>> come
>>>> with it.
>>>
>>> Why is "ranges" conceptually wrong?
>>
>> The flash partitions aren't separate devices sitting on a
>> "flash bus", they are "sub-devices" of their parent.
>
> Well, yes, but nonetheless the partitions show up as part of the
> overall physical address space.  How do you encode that other than in
> 'ranges'?

All that address space shows up in the flash node already.  To
access the partitions you have to go via that "master" node
anyway (some commands have to be sent to address 0 on the flash,
or similar).

It is a very nice feature to not only be able to translate addresses
"up" the device tree, but also "down".

Also, it mimics reality, just like a good OF citizen should:
those partitions aren't actually devices at all, so they
certainly shouldn't be assigned a part of the host address
space.

>>> To be honest this looks rather to me like another case where having
>>> overlapping 'reg' and 'ranges' would actually make sense.
>>
>> It never makes sense.  You should give the "master" device
>> the full "reg" range it covers, and have it define its own
>> address space; "sub-devices" can carve out their little hunk
>> from that.  You don't want more than one device owning the
>> same address range in the same address space.
>
> Why not?  After all, the physical address ranges of the flash
> partitions really do overlap with that of the flash device as a whole.

They don't overlap, a partition is a proper subset of the flash.
Which as usual is shown as "reg" in the child node and #a,#s in
the parent node.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-09 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-30 15:06 [PATCH 2/6] PowerPC 440EPx: Sequoia DTS Valentine Barshak
2007-08-01  2:08 ` David Gibson
2007-08-01  4:57   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-01  5:04     ` David Gibson
2007-08-01  5:47       ` David Gibson
2007-08-02 15:23         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-03  3:13           ` David Gibson
2007-08-03 15:47             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-06  4:21               ` David Gibson
2007-08-06 18:37                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-06 21:03                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 22:15                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-08-06 23:09                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-07  3:29                     ` David Gibson
2007-08-07  3:28                   ` David Gibson
2007-08-07 15:43                     ` Scott Wood
2007-08-07 17:01                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-07 16:43                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-08  0:35                       ` David Gibson
2007-08-19 12:59                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-06 20:54                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-07  4:12                   ` David Gibson
2007-08-07 16:51                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-08  1:13                       ` David Gibson
2007-08-09 19:53                         ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-08-10  1:07                           ` David Gibson
2007-08-10 20:48                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-24 19:10                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-24 20:43                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 20:35               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-07  4:09                 ` David Gibson
2007-08-07 16:58                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-08  0:48                     ` David Gibson
2007-08-06 20:20             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-07  3:35               ` David Gibson
2007-08-06 20:12           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-02 20:18         ` Josh Boyer
2007-08-03  0:49           ` David Gibson
2007-08-03 16:29         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-06  4:31           ` David Gibson
2007-08-06 20:55             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 20:41           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 19:59         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-07  3:41           ` David Gibson
2007-08-07 16:33             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-08  1:51               ` David Gibson
2007-08-09 20:00                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-10  1:11                   ` David Gibson
2007-08-02 20:16       ` Josh Boyer
2007-08-01 14:13   ` Valentine Barshak
2007-08-02  1:00     ` David Gibson
2007-08-02 20:15   ` Josh Boyer
2007-08-06 20:15     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-07  4:11       ` David Gibson

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=019ae19815eb3301065ba732e3e72f44@kernel.crashing.org \
    --to=segher@kernel.crashing.org \
    --cc=david@gibson.dropbear.id.au \
    --cc=linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.