From: "Steve Wise" <swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
To: 'Doug Ledford' <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
"'Hefty,
Sean'" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
'Jason Gunthorpe'
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Cc: 'Christoph Hellwig' <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
'Leon Romanovsky' <leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
'Yishai Hadas'
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'linux-rdma' <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
'Yishai Hadas' <yishaih-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
'Matan Barak' <matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
'Majd Dibbiny' <majd-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: RE: Upcoming libibverbs release
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:03:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01d401d1d252$1aec4ca0$50c4e5e0$@opengridcomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d03eaca-142a-3912-badf-aa9b14f6b2f6-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>
> On 06/29/2016 04:54 PM, Steve Wise wrote:
> >> I think the concern here is being overstated.
> >
> > I don't think it is being overstated. It is my concern, and it is valid.
> > However, after these discussions it has been alleviated to some degree. It
> > seems like some of the members of this discussion already have an
understanding
> > of how this would all work out. But perhaps other provider maintainers
need
> > more details (obviously I did).
>
> I can tell you how it worked inside Red Hat for me (I no longer handle
> the internal builds, others do, so the methodology might have changed a
> little bit), but whenever I got ready to do an update for a release, I
> had these steps to complete on each package:
>
> 1) Download any new source tarball
> 2) Build/test locally.
> 3) Build in build system (all official builds must be built through the
> build system, which strictly controls how the build root is created for
> each build and what packages are installed in that build root to make
> sure a package built out of our build system will actually install and
> rebuild on a machine of the same release properly).
> 4) For packages that other package build against, I had to make sure the
> new package was put into the build root of the build system so other
> packages would get built against the new version and not the old version
> of the package.
> 5) Then I had to make sure the package made its way into an errata so it
> would actually make it to the end users eventually. Because the
> packages in the RDMA stack are so incestuously dependent on each other,
> I used one errata for all of the RDMA stack packages. This is in
> contrast to the norm at Red Hat which is a separate errata per package.
>
> Mainly because of the dependency nightmare of "have I built libibverbs
> and is it in the build root? Yes...OK, which packages can I build
> next..", I kept a spreadsheet around to help me keep track of which
> packages were on which steps and let me see at a glance if I could even
> move to the next step on a given package. Putting all of the verbs
> providers into the same package as libibverbs itself would reduce about
> 10 of those lines to a single line. That would certainly make things
> easier to track. And going back to Jason's comments, it wouldn't really
> slow down end user's access to the packages since most end users get the
> packages from someone like Red Hat and they are all delayed until the
> next release anyway. But, it would be fairly easy to say that we can
> have a policy that supra-minor point releases are a foregone conclusion
> when a provider library needs an updates. And just in case that point
> isn't clear, let me put it this way:
>
> libuberverbs->master branch - ongoing development
> libuberverbs->x.y.0 - Ubervervs major release, major changes or features
> present. When you make this release, you create a verbs-x.y branch.
> Primary development continues on master.
> libuberverbs->x.y.z - Minor bug fixes to major releases. Done on
> verbs-x.y branch. Even before bringing in providers, these are
> typically used after a major release as bugs settle out. After adding
> providers, it would simply mean that a provider bugfix is an understood
> sufficient cause for new minor point release.
>
Thanks Doug. This last paragraph helps me visualize how it can work with a
libuberverbs process.
Steve.
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2016-06-23 16:51 Upcoming libibverbs release Doug Ledford
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2016-06-24 11:50 ` Yishai Hadas
2016-06-26 16:54 ` Yishai Hadas
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2016-06-27 18:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160627181758.GD23540-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-28 5:02 ` Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <20160628050246.GB3584-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-28 15:52 ` Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1467129133.8638.75.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-28 16:22 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-06-28 16:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160628162028.GA27518-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-28 17:05 ` Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <20160628170549.GE3584-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-28 19:12 ` Steve Wise
2016-06-28 21:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160628211441.GA5786-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-28 21:26 ` Hefty, Sean
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2016-06-29 5:19 ` Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <20160629051956.GG3584-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 18:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160629183042.GC17031-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-30 18:17 ` Liran Liss
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2016-06-30 19:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-19 19:57 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <babed655-b61f-e97b-2351-b1ea6692b18d-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-19 20:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-06-28 21:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160628211858.GB5786-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 5:15 ` Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <20160629051507.GF3584-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 17:07 ` Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1467220072.8638.166.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 18:59 ` Yishai Hadas
2016-06-29 12:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20160629120920.GA24151-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 18:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160629183414.GD17031-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 18:46 ` Steve Wise
2016-06-29 18:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160629185757.GA17839-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 19:15 ` Steve Wise
2016-06-29 19:21 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB06699A-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 19:25 ` Steve Wise
2016-06-29 20:34 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0669F5-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 20:44 ` Steve Wise
2016-06-29 20:54 ` Steve Wise
2016-06-29 21:40 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <1d03eaca-142a-3912-badf-aa9b14f6b2f6-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 22:03 ` Steve Wise [this message]
2016-06-29 19:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160629192730.GA18394-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 20:40 ` Doug Ledford
2016-06-28 13:26 ` Yishai Hadas
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