From: Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@oracle.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Force detach PCI devices for ACPI-based and PCIe native hot-unplug
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 09:15:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01ee4841-76d8-4749-a80e-eb945ab8799a@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aoxY4Rxst2qAyn5z@redhat.com>
On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 7:44:49AM -0700, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2026 at 06:13:30PM -0700, Dongli Zhang wrote:
>> Hot-unplugging a PCI device can require cooperation from the guest. For
>> ACPI PCI hotplug, QEMU notifies the guest through ACPI and the guest
>> eventually writes the ACPI PCI eject register. For PCIe native hotplug,
>> QEMU notifies the guest through the PCIe hotplug mechanism and waits for
>> the slot unplug flow to complete. Only after that completion does QEMU
>> unrealize the device and emit DEVICE_DELETED.
>>
>> This can leave a device stuck in the unplug pending state when the guest
>> does not cooperate. Examples include:
>>
>> 1. The guest has panicked, or the relevant ACPI/PCI hotplug driver is
>> unavailable.
>>
>> 2. The guest is stalled and cannot handle the hot-unplug event. For
>> example, stalling the Linux [irq/9-acpi] kernel thread can reproduce this
>> for ACPI-based hot-unplug.
>>
>> 3. The device was attached to a slot that the guest cannot use. For
>> example, a pcie-root-port only supports slot 0. If a device is added to a
>> non-zero slot below a pcie-root-port, the guest may never discover the
>> device and therefore may never complete the unplug request.
>>
>> The non-zero slot case has also been discussed in:
>>
>> hw/pci: warn when PCIe device is plugged into non-zero slot of downstream port
>> https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/commit/
> ca92eb5defcf9d1c2106341744a73a03cf26e824
>>
>> hw/pci: add comment to explain checking for available function 0 in pci hotplug
>> https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/
> commit/67d045a0ef5b9c5f871c3a1d87325a8a42d2b9d5
>>
>> pci: don't skip function 0 occupancy verification for devfn auto assign
>> https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/commit/
> e228d62b4af29bca698ec57efdceb46f392f5444
>>
>> For example, if root-port.1 is a pcie-root-port, the following command adds
>> a vhost-scsi-pci device to an invalid slot:
>>
>> (qemu) device_add vhost-scsi-pci,id=scsi01,wwpn=naa.5001405324af0985,bus=root-port.1,addr=01.0
>> warning: PCI: slot 1 is not valid for vhost-scsi-pci, parent device only allows plugging into slot 0.
>
> This rather looks like it should be a fatal error, not a mere warning.
>
> If I follow the commit ca92eb5def it links to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2128929
> which states that this configuration is going to lead to a crash in
> QEMU on guest OS shutdown. IMHO that crash is sufficient to justify
> making this a fatal error.
>
> If we actually wanted this to remain a warning, then that shutdown
> crash would need to be fixed.
>
Thank you very much!
I see that the issue has been fixed. The ticket mentions the following.
"What I am observing is that it seems when the slot ID != 0, the guest OS seems
to ignore this and we never seem to hit ich9_pm_device_unplug_cb()."
Based on my experience and evaluation, ACPI-based hotplug is more likely to
encounter an issue where the guest VM does not respond to an unplug operation.
Thank you very much!
Dongli Zhang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-26 16:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-24 1:13 [PATCH 0/8] Force detach PCI devices for ACPI-based and PCIe native hot-unplug Dongli Zhang
2026-08-24 1:13 ` [PATCH 1/8] qdev: Add force argument to qdev_unplug Dongli Zhang
2026-08-24 13:51 ` Jason J. Herne
2026-08-24 1:13 ` [PATCH 2/8] qdev: hotplug: Add force_unplug handler callback Dongli Zhang
2026-08-24 1:13 ` [PATCH 3/8] qdev: Support forced device_del in QMP and HMP Dongli Zhang
2026-08-24 14:42 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-08-26 15:53 ` Dongli Zhang
2026-08-24 1:13 ` [PATCH 4/8] hw/acpi/pcihp: Add forced slot unplug helper Dongli Zhang
2026-08-24 1:13 ` [PATCH 5/8] hw/acpi/piix4: Support forced PCI unplug Dongli Zhang
2026-08-24 1:13 ` [PATCH 6/8] hw/acpi/ich9: " Dongli Zhang
2026-08-24 1:13 ` [PATCH 7/8] hw/acpi/ged: " Dongli Zhang
2026-08-24 1:13 ` [PATCH 8/8] hw/pci/pcie: Support forced PCIe native unplug Dongli Zhang
2026-08-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 0/8] Force detach PCI devices for ACPI-based and PCIe native hot-unplug Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-08-26 16:15 ` Dongli Zhang [this message]
2026-09-03 15:28 ` Igor Mammedov
2026-09-03 20:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-09-04 11:07 ` Igor Mammedov
2026-09-04 11:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-09-04 12:08 ` Igor Mammedov
2026-09-07 8:28 ` Dongli Zhang
2026-09-07 8:26 ` Dongli Zhang
2026-09-07 8:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-09-07 21:06 ` Dongli Zhang
2026-09-07 21:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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