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From: "roland" <for_spam@gmx.de>
To: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:28:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01fa01c43e98$4420d510$2000000a@schlepptopp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1084987654.2250.4.camel@chartreuse

hi,
i had a conversation with laurent regarding dynamic toggling of the new sysemu feature via procfs.

>I think switching on/off sysemu is only needed if sysemu doesn't work
>correctly and in a debug context.
>
>You must know that I don't want to make "cosmetic" work on sysemu
>(except correcting the strace problem) because : I don't use UML (I make
>this patch in a prospecting work), all my systems are powerpc based,
>and he acknoweledged, that it would be ok,
....
>> if not, via kernel-commandline-param, maybe this is even possible dynamically, from
inside uml ?
>
>yes, from a /proc/sys toggle to set the internal "use_sysemu" variable to 0.

i think this would be useful to do better performance comparison and for determining the
"real world" benefit of this patch (it`s like applying and releasing the brake)

 echo 1 >/proc/sysemu    - now sysemu is ON
 benchmark your application/uml
 echo 0 >/proc/sysemu    - now sysemu is OFF
 benchmark your application/uml again
 compare

do you think this is useful ?

i would have already done this "cosmetic work", but for sure i need some help because
i`m no good programmer (but i would like starting some kernelhacking :)
i have read some docs how procfs programming is being done and it seems reasonable simple
for me.

so i want to hear your opinion first, before getting on your nerves with (really dumb kernel-
hackernewbie) questions for a feature, nobody wants to have :)

roland





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurent Vivier" <LaurentVivier@wanadoo.fr>
To: "Jeff Dike" <jdike@addtoit.com>
Cc: "roland" <for_spam@gmx.de>; <user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction


Hi,

as it is a plebiscite ;-), find attached the patch for UML 2.6.6 and
measurements I made on my poor netserver.

Laurent

Le mar 18/05/2004 à 19:59, Jeff Dike a écrit :
> On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:22:45AM +0200, roland wrote:
> > the question is:
> > is the "real world" performance benefit, uml get`s from this patch worth taking your time and is it implemented in a way, so
that
> > uml maintainers are happy with that ?
>
> The patch seems reasonable to me.  I'd be happiest with Laurent pushing this
> into mainline himself.
>
> > i cannot really estimate, what performance benefits your patch brings to uml in detail, but what i have seen so far, this seems
> > quite worth doing the work.  reducing context switches by 1/3 is a LOT, imho - and reducing the execution time of the
getpid-loop to
> > nearly the half is quite impressive.
>
> Yeah, but no real workloads do while(1) getpid();
>
> The kernel build improvement is obviously smaller, but still worth having.
>
> > are there any "con`s" that argue for that work _NOT_ being done ?
>
> No.  But testing, and happy reports to the appropriate mailing lists would
> help.
>
> Jeff



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


> HP Netserver LH Pro bi-pro 200 MHz / 256 MB RAM
>
> NATIF:
>
> netserver:/usr/src# uname -a
> Linux netserver 2.4.24-sysemu #4 SMP Tue Feb 17 16:43:11 CET 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> netserver:/usr/src# time ./getpid 1000000
>
> real    0m1.763s
> user    0m0.910s
> sys     0m0.860s
>
> real    0m1.759s
> user    0m0.900s
> sys     0m0.870s
>
> real    0m1.759s
> user    0m0.950s
> sys     0m0.800s
>
> UML with sysemu:
>
> (none):~# uname -a
> Linux (none) 2.6.6-1um #10 Wed May 19 12:54:37 CEST 2004 i686 unknown
>
> (none):/mnt/usr/src# time ./getpid 1000000
>
> real    1m1.508s
> user    0m7.960s
> sys     0m53.450s
>
> real    1m1.881s
> user    0m6.630s
> sys     0m55.240s
>
> real    1m1.920s
> user    0m6.580s
> sys     0m55.340s
>
> UML w/o sysemu
>
> real    1m32.833s
> user    0m7.610s
> sys     1m25.130s
>
> real    1m32.921s
> user    0m7.890s
> sys     1m24.980s
>
> real    1m33.493s
> user    0m8.010s
> sys     1m24.960s
>



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-20 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-29  4:35 [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction Jeff Dike
2004-02-29 16:48 ` BlaisorBlade
2004-03-15 11:42 ` Sven 'Darkman' Michels
2004-03-15 19:13   ` Jeff Dike
2004-05-17 20:08 ` roland
2004-05-17 22:00   ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-17 22:22     ` roland
2004-05-18 17:59       ` Jeff Dike
2004-05-19 17:27         ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-19 18:01           ` roland
2004-05-19 18:17             ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-19 19:39               ` roland
2004-05-19 19:49                 ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-20  2:30                   ` roland
2004-05-20 12:49                     ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-23  0:42                       ` [uml-devel] [PATCH] commandline switch for sysemu patch roland
2004-05-23 13:31                       ` [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction roland
2004-05-19 23:54               ` Jeff Dike
2004-05-20  1:01               ` roland
2004-05-20 14:12                 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-05-20 15:27                   ` roland
2004-05-20 15:35                     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-05-19 22:40           ` Nuno Silva
2004-05-20 18:28           ` roland [this message]
2004-05-20 18:47             ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-05-27  6:16           ` Christopher S. Aker
2004-05-27  8:22             ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-27  9:25               ` Christopher S. Aker
2004-05-27 11:50                 ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-28  4:53                   ` [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction Benchmarks Christopher S. Aker
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2004-05-20  2:34 [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction roland

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