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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: Andrew Gierth <andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk>,
	erik@hensema.xs4all.nl, md@linux.it
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bincancels in linux.kernel
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 04:49:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <02120304491301.00232@7ixe4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fztflvmj.fsf@erlenstar.demon.co.uk>

On Tuesday 03 December 2002 02:49, Andrew Gierth wrote:

> I don't personally consider that the fact that a group is gatewayed
> from a mailing list to be significant when deciding how to apply Usenet
> policies to it.

Andrew, please note that I as a user of linux.kernel do actually consider it 
significant. LKML (the gated list) is not part of Usenet and the mere fact 
that at some point it is gated to a newsgroup and transported further via 
NNTP doesn't make it a part. It's merely a service to people (like me) who 
find a news interface more convenient and/or have trouble dealing with the 
large volume of messages via mail.

Furthermore (or "that aside", if you want ... ), although I guess I could 
conceivably be sympathetic to your cause of ridding Usenet from as much 
in-appropriate content as possible, linux kernel patches, including binary 
encoded ones, are not in fact in-appropriate content for linux.kernel, either 
the list or the newsgroup.

Even on the mailing-list plain text patches are preffered, but when the patch 
is large gzipping it is actually recommended:

http://www.tux.org/lkml/#s4-1

You for example today cancelled a completely appropriate post from Art Haas 
(http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0212.0/0302.html) and I will 
admit that actually annoys me quite a bit.

>  Erik> The gated list is linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (Cc), a list to
>  Erik> which sometimes binary patches are posted.  IMHO binaries are
>  Erik> acceptable in linux.kernel.
>
> well, I would have to disagree (even if you don't think that binaries
> coming via the mailing list would be a problem, there is still the
> question of binaries posted via news

Fortunately, linux-kernel (the list) has active filtering itself, so anything 
in-appropriate comming in through news will be filtered out in the same way 
as the ones comming in through mail. Of course that doesn't help us NNTP 
readers, but I guess we'll just have to deal with that. LKML is not strictly 
non-binary-only, so cancelling simply on the criterium of binary attachments 
is very inappropriate.

Might I therefore respectfully suggest you keep the bin-cancelling suspended?

Rene.

P.S. offline for a while, so will not be able to reply quickly.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-03  3:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-02 22:18 bincancels in linux.kernel Erik Hensema
2002-12-02 22:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-02 22:39   ` Larry McVoy
2002-12-03  0:09   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-03  1:49 ` Andrew Gierth
2002-12-03  3:49   ` Rene Herman [this message]
2002-12-03 13:12   ` Marco d'Itri
2002-12-05  0:37     ` Andrew Gierth
2002-12-05  0:44       ` Marco d'Itri
2002-12-04  2:21   ` David Schwartz
2002-12-04  4:52     ` Andrew Gierth
2002-12-04  5:10       ` David Schwartz
     [not found] <fa.fv5l6nv.1am209b@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.jsbpciv.t2snp4@ifi.uio.no>
2002-12-03  4:10   ` Russ Allbery
2002-12-03 13:19     ` bill davidsen
     [not found] ` <fa.eas3r1v.k3isq5@ifi.uio.no>
2002-12-03  8:25   ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-12-03 10:18     ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
     [not found] <fa.d6sj37v.97gj3h@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.frmc8vv.pkcm2i@ifi.uio.no>
2002-12-04  3:50   ` Russ Allbery
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-05  1:02 Adam J. Richter

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