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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Cc: James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, roberto.sassu@huawei.com,
	mapengyu@gmail.com, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] Lazy flush for the auth session
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:08:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <036746bc4e37ff10a18b5fdffd6fdee561dd5bfe.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64710fe1db1432ca8857ec83fff4809ab1550137.camel@kernel.org>

On Mon, 2024-10-14 at 15:34 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Mon, 2024-10-14 at 07:45 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > > > For server/IMA use case I'll add a boot parameter it can be
> > > > either on or off by default, I will state that in the commit
> > > > message and we'll go from there.
> > 
> > Sounds good.
> 
> But only after this patch set lands. I gave this a thought and since
> this patch set is specifically for a specific Bugzilla bug that it
> closes, I have no interest to increase its scope.

Prior to your performance improvement patch set it took >10 minutes to boot,
when it succeeded booting.  Now on Fedora 40 with "ima_policy=tcb" on the boot
command line, it's taking ~3 minutes to boot.  Do you really think that is
acceptable?!

> > 
> > > 
> > > Up until legit fixes are place distributors can easily disable
> > > the feature. It would be worse if TCG_TPM2_HMAC did not exist.
> > > 
> > > So I think it is better to focus on doing right things right,
> > > since the feature itself is useful objectively, and make sure
> > > that those fixes bring the wanted results.

The right thing would have been to listen to my concerns when this was initially
being discussed.  The right thing wasn't enabling TCG_TPM2_HMAC by default.

> > 
> > Are you backtracking on having a boot parameter here specifically to
> > turn on/off
> > HMAC encryption for IMA?
> 
> I'm not really sure yet but obviously any change goes through review.
> 
> Also fastest route is to send your own RFC's to IMA specific issue.
> For me it will take some time (post this patch set).

Done.  The patch applies cleanly with/without the TPM performance improvement
patch set.
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/20241015193916.59964-1-zohar@linux.ibm.com/

Mimi

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-15 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-21 12:08 [PATCH v5 0/5] Lazy flush for the auth session Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] tpm: Return on tpm2_create_null_primary() failure Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-03 14:57   ` Stefan Berger
2024-10-07 23:47     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] tpm: Implement tpm2_load_null() rollback Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-03 15:27   ` Stefan Berger
2024-09-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] tpm: flush the null key only when /dev/tpm0 is accessed Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] tpm: Allocate chip->auth in tpm2_start_auth_session() Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 13:33   ` James Bottomley
2024-09-24 16:13     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 18:13     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] tpm: flush the auth session only when /dev/tpm0 is open Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 13:43   ` James Bottomley
2024-09-24 16:13     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 18:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 18:40       ` James Bottomley
2024-09-24 21:35         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 21:51           ` James Bottomley
2024-09-25  7:42             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-25  7:46               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-25  7:53                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-21 12:36 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Lazy flush for the auth session Paul Menzel
2024-09-21 13:13   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-21 14:38     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-22 17:51 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 13:48   ` James Bottomley
2024-09-24 16:29     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 16:33       ` James Bottomley
2024-09-24 16:36         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 17:26           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 17:28             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 18:01               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-01 18:10   ` Mimi Zohar
2024-10-07 23:45     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-03 15:14 ` Stefan Berger
2024-10-07 23:49   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-11 14:06 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-11 16:10   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-10-11 16:25     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-12 10:56       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-14 11:45         ` Mimi Zohar
2024-10-14 12:34           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-15 20:08             ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2024-10-15 22:14               ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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