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From: Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>, Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] PCI: pciehp: Fix hotplug on Catlow Lake with unreliable PME status
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 10:37:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <074b0b65-b9fb-477e-b511-d09fb1915614@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7a3ef34-27f0-4b0b-8eab-db0fff15588d@linux.intel.com>

Hi Lukas, Bjorn,

Gentle ping on the two options in my mail below.  In the meantime I
validated both approaches on Catlow Lake with physical hot-remove and
hot-add, and both fix the issue.

Please let me know which one you prefer and I will send v5 with that
approach.

On 10/7/2026 12:55 PM, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
> Hi Lukas,
> 
> On 9/25/2026 11:35 AM, Lukas Wunner wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 10:38:08AM -0700, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
>>> Once the port is in D3hot, pciehp has cleared HPIE and depends on PME.
>>> That is where Catlow breaks. The PME interrupt arrives, but PME Status in
>>> Root Status is never set. pcie_pme_irq() returns IRQ_NONE, the port stays
>>> in D3hot and the hot-add event is lost.
>>
>> If a device below the Root Port (instead of the Root Port itself)
>> signals PME, does the Root Port misbehave in the same way?
>> I.e. is the PME Status bit clear in that case as well?
> 
> No, a downstream PME is reported correctly.  I tested with a NIC at
> 0a:00.0 (8086:1533) connected below Root Port 00:1c.6 (8086:7a3e).  The NIC
> and the Port were both runtime suspended to D3hot, and the NIC woke on link
> change.  All six PMEs I captured had PME Status set and Requester ID 0x0a00,
> which matches the NIC's BDF, and went through the normal path in
> pcie_pme_handle_request().
> 
>>
>> If so, the proper solution might be to add a quirk to the PME driver,
>> not the PCIe hotplug driver.
> 
> Given the above, the problem is narrower than broken PME in general.  It
> only affects the PME the Port generates for its own hotplug event, and
> hotplug is the only user of that.  So both drivers are possible places for
> the fix, and I would like your and Bjorn's preference before sending v5.
> 
> 1. pciehp route (v4)
> 
>    https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20260323223056.3119060-1-sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com/
> 
>    A quirk sets PCI_DEV_FLAGS_PME_UNRELIABLE on the affected Ports, and
>    pciehp_disable_interrupt() skips clearing HPIE for them.  The Port
>    still goes to D3hot, but hotplug events arrive as ordinary hotplug
>    interrupts and PME is not needed.  The downside is that it changes the
>    suspend behaviour added by eb34da60edee, which was Bjorn's concern.
> 
> 2. PME route
> 
>    Keep the same quirk flag, leave pciehp alone, and handle it in
>    pcie_pme_irq().  If a quirked Port interrupts while not in D0 and PME
>    Status is clear, resume the Port.  pciehp_runtime_resume() then
>    re-enables HPIE and pciehp_check_presence() finds the new card.
>    Downstream PMEs still set PME Status and take the normal path, and
>    pcie_pme_work_fn() is unchanged.
> 
> 	if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(rtsta)) {
> 		spin_unlock_irqrestore(&data->lock, flags);
> 		return IRQ_NONE;
> 	}
> 
> 	if (!(rtsta & PCI_EXP_RTSTA_PME)) {
> 		spin_unlock_irqrestore(&data->lock, flags);
> 
> 		/*
> 		 * Some Root Ports don't set PME Status for a PME they
> 		 * generate for their own hotplug events.  While the Port
> 		 * is not in D0, PME is the only interrupt it can signal
> 		 * for such events, so resume it and let pciehp pick up
> 		 * the event.
> 		 */
> 		if ((port->dev_flags & PCI_DEV_FLAGS_PME_UNRELIABLE) &&
> 		    port->current_state != PCI_D0) {
> 			pci_wakeup_event(port);
> 			pm_request_resume(&port->dev);
> 			return IRQ_HANDLED;
> 		}
> 		return IRQ_NONE;
> 	}
> 
>>
>> pcie_pme_irq() checks PME Status and bails out if it's not set.
>> That would need an amendment such that Root Ports with broken PME
>> would always assume it's set if they receive a PME.  I think that
>> would be safe because even though PME is shared with other interrupts
>> such as hotplug, I think it's the only interrupt source once the port
>> is in D3hot.
>>
>> There's another check for PME Status in pcie_pme_work_fn().
>> This one is tricky because it uses the PME Status bit to jump
>> out of the for-loop.  Does the Root Port at least set the
>> Requester ID to an appropriate value?  If so maybe that can be
>> used as an indicator whether the loop should be terminated.
>>
>> Or maybe the PME Pending bit can be used in lieu of PME Status?
>>
> 
> In the failing case Requester ID stays 0000 and PME Pending is not set
> either, so neither can be used in place of PME Status.  That is why option
> 2 resumes the Port directly from pcie_pme_irq() and does not go through
> pcie_pme_work_fn() at all.
> 
> 
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lukas
> 

-- 
Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
Linux Kernel Developer


      reply	other threads:[~2026-10-20 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-16 22:08 [PATCH v3] PCI: pciehp: Fix hotplug on Catlow Lake with unreliable PME status Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-03-23 12:53 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-23 23:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-03-24 21:45   ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-03-24 23:46     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-03-25  5:56     ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-25 23:21       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-03-25  6:11     ` Mika Westerberg
2026-03-25 21:12       ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-03-26  6:12         ` Mika Westerberg
2026-03-26 21:23           ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-03-27 11:16             ` Mika Westerberg
2026-04-03 19:37               ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-04-07  7:08                 ` Mika Westerberg
2026-09-11 17:01                   ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-09-24 18:46                     ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-09-25  5:19                       ` Mika Westerberg
2026-09-25 17:38                         ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-09-25 18:35                           ` Lukas Wunner
2026-09-29 17:42                             ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-10-07 19:55                             ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-10-20 17:37                               ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan [this message]

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