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From: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	"D. Ben Knoble" <ben.knoble@gmail.com>,
	Harald Nordgren <haraldnordgren@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/5] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a shallow repo
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2026 09:43:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <101723fc-d392-4000-b224-345c610b2aaa@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqcxt02eoa.fsf@gitster.g>

On 24/10/2026 00:13, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> "Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> This topic seeems fairly well done, without seeing any additional
> comments in the last two rounds, but I am highly disturbed that I
> was practically the only person who reviewd its later iterations.
> Because I am not a target audience of the feature, I would not be
> surprised if I am missing something large.
> 
> I would very much appreciate if somebody else can give the series
> one more read and Ack them, so that we can move it forward.

I've just read through the commit messages and documentation changes and 
I think it is a mistake to use a single config variable to configure 
where fetched refs are stored and which refs are fetched. The problem 
this series tries to solve is that the default refspec fetches all the 
branches from the remote and it's not possible to use that mapping and 
also restrict which branches are fetched. To fix that it introduces a 
new config setting to configure where the refs are stored which is good, 
but it then uses the presence of that setting to implicitly configure 
the default set of refs to fetch. To me that repeats the mistake of the 
existing fetch config.

It would be much more flexible if we had a separate config setting 
(maybe remote.<name>.fetchRefs) to describe which refs are fetched. That 
setting could accept something like "*@{upstream}" to "mean fetch the 
upstream branches of my local branches that live on this remote" which 
would cover what this series wants. I think it would be useful to 
support "+" and "^" prefixes on the refs to fetch as well, so that the 
refmap config controls the mapping and the "what to fetch" config 
handles negation and forced updates on a per-ref basis.

Setting

     remote.<name>.fetchRefmap refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/<name>/*
     remote.<name>.fetchRefs +refs/heads/*

would be equivalent to

     remote.<name>.fetch +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/<name>/*

Ideally when we're seeing which refs to fetch we'd use the last entry 
that matches so that

    remote.<name>.fetchRefs +refs/head/*
    remote.<name>.fetchRefs refs/heads/master

would refuse non-fast-forward updates for master. Currently we use the 
first refspec we find that matches which goes against the usual "last 
one wins" behavior for config settings and makes it impossible to add 
per-branch refspecs with "git config" because the default setting comes 
first in the config file and matches all branches.

Thanks

Phillip


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-26  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-19 14:47 [PATCH] fetch: add config to avoid fetching every branch in shallow repo Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-21 13:28 ` Phillip Wood
2026-09-21 21:45   ` Harald Nordgren
2026-09-22 13:00     ` Harald Nordgren
2026-09-22 14:53       ` Phillip Wood
2026-09-22 15:37         ` Harald Nordgren
2026-09-23 15:14           ` Phillip Wood
2026-09-22 17:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-22 21:40     ` Harald Nordgren
2026-09-23 15:19     ` Phillip Wood
2026-09-23 15:34       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-23 16:55         ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-09-23 19:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-24 17:10             ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-09-24 18:02               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v2] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a " Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-23 21:38   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-25 10:49 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-25 10:49   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] fetch: add remote.<name>.refmap Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-25 22:38     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-25 10:50   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] fetch: infer branches to fetch from a refmap-only remote Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-25 23:26     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-25 10:50   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] remote: add "git remote add --limited-fetch" Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-25 10:50   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] remote: default to --limited-fetch in a shallow repository Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-29  9:19 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a shallow repo Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-29  9:19   ` [PATCH v4 1/4] fetch: add remote.<name>.refmap Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-29  9:19   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] fetch: infer branches to fetch from a refmap-only remote Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-29  9:27     ` Harald Nordgren
2026-09-29 20:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-29  9:19   ` [PATCH v4 3/4] remote: add "git remote add --limited-fetch" Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-29  9:19   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] remote: default to --limited-fetch in a shallow repository Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-09-29 19:36   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a shallow repo Junio C Hamano
2026-10-02  7:13 ` [PATCH v5 " Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-02  7:13   ` [PATCH v5 1/4] fetch: add remote.<name>.refmap Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-02  7:13   ` [PATCH v5 2/4] fetch: infer branches to fetch from a refmap-only remote Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-02  7:13   ` [PATCH v5 3/4] remote: add "git remote add --limited-fetch" Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-02 16:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-02  7:13   ` [PATCH v5 4/4] remote: default to --limited-fetch in a shallow repository Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-04  8:31 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a shallow repo Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-04  8:31   ` [PATCH v6 1/4] fetch: add remote.<name>.refmap Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-04  8:31   ` [PATCH v6 2/4] fetch: infer branches to fetch from a refmap-only remote Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-04  8:31   ` [PATCH v6 3/4] remote: add "git remote add --limited-fetch" Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-04  8:31   ` [PATCH v6 4/4] remote: default to --limited-fetch in a shallow repository Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-04 17:17   ` [PATCH v6 0/4] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a shallow repo Junio C Hamano
2026-10-04 19:51     ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-05 12:17       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-05 18:09         ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-07 21:56 ` [PATCH v7 " Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-07 21:56   ` [PATCH v7 1/4] fetch: add remote.<name>.refmap Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-07 21:56   ` [PATCH v7 2/4] fetch: infer branches to fetch from a refmap-only remote Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-08 16:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-09  7:05       ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-09  8:09       ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-07 21:56   ` [PATCH v7 3/4] remote: add "git remote add --limited-fetch" Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-07 21:56   ` [PATCH v7 4/4] remote: default to --limited-fetch in a shallow repository Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-10  8:02 ` [PATCH v8 0/5] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a shallow repo Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-10  8:02   ` [PATCH v8 1/5] fetch: add remote.<name>.refmap Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-10  8:02   ` [PATCH v8 2/5] fetch: extract collect_upstream_from_remote() helper Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-10 17:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-10 18:36       ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-10  8:02   ` [PATCH v8 3/5] fetch: infer branches to fetch from a refmap-only remote Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-10  8:02   ` [PATCH v8 4/5] remote: add "git remote add --limited-fetch" Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-10 17:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-10  8:02   ` [PATCH v8 5/5] remote: default to --limited-fetch in a shallow repository Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-14  7:04 ` [PATCH v9 0/5] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a shallow repo Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-14  7:04   ` [PATCH v9 1/5] fetch: add remote.<name>.refmap Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-14  7:04   ` [PATCH v9 2/5] fetch: extract collect_upstream_from_remote() helper Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-14  7:04   ` [PATCH v9 3/5] fetch: infer branches to fetch from a refmap-only remote Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-14  7:04   ` [PATCH v9 4/5] remote: add "git remote add --limited-fetch" Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-14  7:04   ` [PATCH v9 5/5] remote: default to --limited-fetch in a shallow repository Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-20 13:42 ` [PATCH v10 0/5] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a shallow repo Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-20 13:42   ` [PATCH v10 1/5] fetch: add remote.<name>.refmap Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-24 15:08     ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-24 17:18       ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-25 14:14         ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-25 16:47           ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-25 22:15           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-26  8:21             ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-26 15:48               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-27 17:03                 ` Phillip Wood
2026-10-27 17:21                   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-28 16:16                     ` Phillip Wood
2026-10-28 17:42                       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-28 20:57                         ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-29 16:26                         ` Phillip Wood
2026-10-26 10:44             ` Phillip Wood
2026-10-26 15:51               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-26  9:44     ` Phillip Wood
2026-10-29 14:30       ` Ben Knoble
2026-10-29 14:50         ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-20 13:42   ` [PATCH v10 2/5] fetch: extract collect_upstream_from_remote() helper Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-24 15:08     ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-25 17:20       ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-27 19:41         ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-20 13:42   ` [PATCH v10 3/5] fetch: infer branches to fetch from a refmap-only remote Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-24 15:09     ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-25 17:27       ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-20 13:42   ` [PATCH v10 4/5] remote: add "git remote add --limited-fetch" Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-24 15:11     ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-20 13:42   ` [PATCH v10 5/5] remote: default to --limited-fetch in a shallow repository Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-24 15:13     ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-25 18:12       ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-23 23:13   ` [PATCH v10 0/5] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a shallow repo Junio C Hamano
2026-10-24 15:15     ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-26  9:43     ` Phillip Wood [this message]
2026-10-26 15:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-27 12:22         ` Harald Nordgren
2026-10-27 17:04         ` Phillip Wood
2026-10-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v11 " Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-25 20:25   ` [PATCH v11 1/5] fetch: add remote.<name>.refmap Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-25 20:25   ` [PATCH v11 2/5] fetch: extract collect_upstream_from_remote() helper Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-25 20:25   ` [PATCH v11 3/5] fetch: infer branches to fetch from a refmap-only remote Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-25 20:25   ` [PATCH v11 4/5] remote: add "git remote add --limited-fetch" Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-25 20:25   ` [PATCH v11 5/5] remote: default to --limited-fetch in a shallow repository Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-27 12:24 ` [PATCH v12 0/5] fetch: avoid fetching every branch of a new remote in a shallow repo Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-27 12:24   ` [PATCH v12 1/5] fetch: add remote.<name>.fetchRefmap Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-27 12:24   ` [PATCH v12 2/5] fetch: extract collect_upstream_from_remote() helper Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-27 12:24   ` [PATCH v12 3/5] fetch: infer branches to fetch from a refmap-only remote Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-27 12:24   ` [PATCH v12 4/5] remote: add "git remote add --limited-fetch" Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-10-27 12:24   ` [PATCH v12 5/5] remote: default to --limited-fetch in a shallow repository Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget

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