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From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] BUG(): sched.c: Line 944
Date: 17 Sep 2002 14:27:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1032287273.4593.31.camel@phantasy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209171153050.7096-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 05:57, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> We *must* use the schedule() check to debug preemption bugs, or we wont
> have usable preemption in 2.6, i dont really understand why your are not
> happy that we have such a great tool. In fact we should also add other
> debugging bits, like 'check for !0 preemption count in smp_processor_id()'
> , and the underflow checks that caught the IDE bug. These are all bits
> that help the elimination of preemption bugs which are also often SMP
> bugs, on plain UP boxes.

Hm, sorry if I sound like I do not want something "so great".  I do.  I
just do not ever want to compromise the existing code... I would much
prefer to say "wow we cannot do this cleanly now, let's wait until we
figure out a clean way".

Anyhow, one of us is confused.  How can this in_atomic() test _ever_
catch a preemption bug?  We cannot enter the scheduler off kernel
preemption unless preempt_count==0.  This is a test to catch bugs in
other parts of the kernel, e.g. where code explicitly calls schedule()
while holding a lock.

	Robert Love


  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-17 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-16 18:48 [PATCH] BUG(): sched.c: Line 944 Robert Love
2002-09-16 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-16 21:14   ` Robert Love
2002-09-16 21:41     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-16 22:15       ` Robert Love
2002-09-16 22:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-16 23:15           ` Robert Love
2002-09-16 23:45             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-16 23:58               ` Robert Love
2002-09-17  5:56                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-17  8:12                   ` Robert Love
2002-09-17  8:51                     ` Robert Love
2002-09-17  8:59                     ` Robert Love
2002-09-17  9:57                       ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-17 18:27                         ` Robert Love [this message]
2002-09-17 18:46                           ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-17 14:10                       ` Steven Cole
2002-09-17 18:29                         ` Robert Love
2002-09-17 18:42                           ` Steven Cole
2002-09-17 15:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-17 15:40                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-17 15:53                           ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-17 16:18                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-17 16:26                               ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-17 18:47                                 ` Robert Love
2002-09-17 18:57                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-17 19:23                                     ` Robert Love
2002-09-17 19:54                                       ` Steven Cole
2002-09-17 20:06                                         ` Robert Love
2002-09-17 20:32                                           ` Steven Cole
2002-09-17 20:58                                           ` Steven Cole
2002-09-18  4:44                                             ` Robert Love
2002-09-18 14:08                                               ` Steven Cole
2002-09-17 15:54                           ` Ingo Molnar

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