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From: Soeren Sonnenburg <reiserfs@nn7.de>
To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: How to build a big file server
Date: 05 Jun 2003 12:07:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1054807646.14700.9.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1054806353.558.16.camel@chtephan.cs.pocnet.net>

On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 11:45, Christophe Saout wrote:

> > - I plan to build a system with IDE 250GB drives. 7 of them for raid 5
> > and one hot spare. The OS will be on separate hardware raid 1 on smaller
> > disks. Does anybody have experience with IDE controlers for the big
> > disks? Is it better to use hardware raid oder software raid
> > (performance)?
> 
> I'm successfully running a bunch of servers with Promise
> Ultra100/Ultra133 controllers and software raid on it (and LVM but
> that's another story).

iiiieeeek! I don't know how you get them running stably but here two
ultra tx2 only caused trouble and were quickly thrown away.
so the message is KEEP AWAY FROM PROMISE CONTROLLERS.

> The only problem you'll probably run into is that the PCI slots get full
> because you should only have one hard disk per cable to get the best
> performance.

well 6 pci slots gives you 12 disks with el cheapo controllers (hpt37x
based ones etc...) so that is not the problem, BUT pci bus speed. I have
a software raid5 running here with only 5 disks and on heavy disk io
nothing else works on the PCI bus... (e.g. watching tv via pci-tv card
is impossible then).

> The only problem with that solution is that when one disk fails you'll
> have to turn of the machine and exchange the disk, and after turning it
> on fdisk it (I love the raid autodetection) and raidhotadd that disk
> manually.

or use a spare and do it at night :-)

> I don't have enough hard disks here to play with them now, but on a raid
> 10 configuration here (striping over two raid1 pairs of 200 GB 7200 rpm
> disks that can do about 50MB/sec each) a cp -al takes about one minute
> over 80.000 files/directories.

the raid5 has about the same speed... reading/writing is 40-50M/s.
rebuilding a 5*80G raid takes about an hour.

Another solution would be to take these transtec external raids which
are ide intern scsi extern. I have one (1.2TB) here and it is althoug a
bit slower pretty reliable so far...

I've had no bad experience with reiserfs on x86 hardware so far and it
gets pretty intensively used...

Soeren.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-05 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-05  8:14 How to build a big file server Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05  8:25 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-06-05  8:55   ` Andreas Dilger
2003-06-05  9:51     ` Hendrik Visage
2003-06-05  8:33 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2003-06-05  8:42   ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05  8:45     ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-06-05  9:30       ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05 11:27       ` Bill Rees
2003-06-10 13:28       ` myciel
2003-06-10 13:36         ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-10 14:13           ` myciel
2003-06-12 20:34             ` Lars O. Grobe
2003-06-05  8:46   ` Oleg Drokin
2003-06-05  8:50     ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05  9:04       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-06-05  9:17         ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05 10:29           ` Russell Coker
2003-06-05 10:45             ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05 16:47               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-06-05 17:01                 ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2003-06-05 17:06                 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2003-06-06  9:41                   ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05 13:38           ` Hans Reiser
2003-06-05 12:06         ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05  9:45 ` Christophe Saout
2003-06-05 10:07   ` Soeren Sonnenburg [this message]
2003-06-05  9:59 ` Russell Coker
2003-06-05 10:13   ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05 10:25     ` Russell Coker
2003-06-05 10:38       ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05 11:11         ` Russell Coker
2003-06-05 13:48       ` Chris Mason
2003-06-14 11:11         ` data-logging for 2.4.21+ (was Re: How to build a big file server) Manuel Krause
2003-06-05 10:05 ` How to build a big file server Hans Reiser
2003-06-05 10:24   ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-05 13:43 ` Sam Vilain
2003-06-05 13:55   ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2003-06-06 11:15   ` Vitezslav T. Se'm
2003-06-06 15:15     ` Russell Coker
2003-06-06 11:16   ` Vitezslav T. Se'm
     [not found] <no.id>
2003-06-05 23:49 ` The Amazing Dragon

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