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From: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sf.net>
To: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	davem@redhat.com, bcollins@debian.org, wli@holomorphy.com,
	tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com, anton@samba.org
Subject: Re: /proc/bus/pci
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 08:36:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1054816598.22103.6151.camel@cube> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1054814759.22103.6114.camel@cube>

On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 08:05, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 00:23, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> > >
> > > I notice that /proc/bus/pci doesn't offer a sane
> > > interface for multiple PCI domains and choice of BAR.
> > > What do people think of this?
> > > 
> > > bus/pci/00/00.0 -> ../hose0/bus0/dev0/fn0/config-space
> > 
> > Why do we have that stupid "hose" name? Only because of strange alpha 
> > naming, or did somebody else also use that incredibly silly name?
> > 
> > Please talk about "domains", at least it makes some sense as a name.
> 
> "hose" does sound pretty crazy, but...
> 
> a. "domain" is way overused in OSes and programming
> b. "hose" is short
> c. with old names like "d4", "hose" is better for tab-completion
> 
> I'm sure somebody could name a dozen things called "domain".
> 
> > I'm also hoping that /proc/bus will eventually go away, so I don't see a 
> > major problem with not understanding multiple domains at that level.
> > 
> > On a /sys/bus/xxx level we actually should already be able to handle 
> > multiple domains, but the naming is broken. However, in /sys we should be 
> > able to nicely handling non-zero domains by just extending the name space 
> > a bit.
> 
> Does this mean you'd like to see per-BAR kobject stuff?
> If I'm not mistaken, that is required for sysfs to work.
> 
> So sysfs then has:
> 
> devices/pci2/02:0b.0 -> ../hose0/bus2/dev11/fn0
> devices/hose0/bus2/dev11/fn0/config-space
> devices/hose0/bus2/dev11/fn0/bar0
> devices/hose0/bus2/dev11/fn0/bar1
> devices/hose0/bus2/dev11/fn0/bar2
> devices/hose0/bus2/dev11/fn0/class
> devices/hose0/bus2/dev11/fn0/power
> devices/hose0/bus2/dev11/fn0/subsystem_vendor
> devices/hose0/bus2/dev11/fn0/and-so-on
> 
> To make this clear, mmap() on bar0 would get you
> a mapping of that BAR.

Some of the IBMers use "phb" instead of "hose" or "domain".
It's Primary Host Bridge, which can only be confused
with Pointy-Haired Boss AFAIK.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-06-05 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-05  3:21 /proc/bus/pci Albert Cahalan
2003-06-05  3:35 ` /proc/bus/pci William Lee Irwin III
2003-06-05  4:23 ` /proc/bus/pci Linus Torvalds
2003-06-05  5:01   ` /proc/bus/pci David S. Miller
2003-06-05 12:05   ` /proc/bus/pci Albert Cahalan
2003-06-05 12:16     ` /proc/bus/pci David S. Miller
2003-06-05 12:42       ` /proc/bus/pci Albert Cahalan
2003-06-05 12:36     ` Albert Cahalan [this message]
2003-06-05 15:51       ` /proc/bus/pci Linus Torvalds
2003-06-05 16:00         ` /proc/bus/pci William Lee Irwin III
2003-06-05 17:23           ` /proc/bus/pci Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-06-05 17:36             ` /proc/bus/pci William Lee Irwin III
2003-06-05 17:18         ` /proc/bus/pci Riley Williams
2003-06-06 16:30         ` /proc/bus/pci Ross Biro
2003-06-06 18:13           ` /proc/bus/pci Riley Williams
2003-06-07  2:02           ` /proc/bus/pci Horst von Brand
2003-06-07  0:25         ` /proc/bus/pci Robert White
2003-06-07  0:35           ` /proc/bus/pci Linus Torvalds
2003-06-07  1:01             ` /proc/bus/pci Robert White
2003-06-07  1:43             ` /proc/bus/pci Albert Cahalan
2003-06-05 12:43     ` /proc/bus/pci Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-06-05 16:58 ` /proc/bus/pci Greg KH
2003-06-05 18:27   ` /proc/bus/pci Matt Wilson
2003-06-05 19:35     ` /proc/bus/pci Greg KH
     [not found] <20030605125013$41ac@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030605160017$10e1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-06-05 16:41   ` /proc/bus/pci Julien Oster
2003-06-05 16:57     ` /proc/bus/pci Mike Dresser
2003-06-05 17:00     ` /proc/bus/pci Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-07  0:31       ` /proc/bus/pci Robert White
2003-06-05 20:49     ` /proc/bus/pci Michal Jaegermann
2003-06-12  4:29       ` /proc/bus/pci Andre Hedrick
2003-06-13  7:10         ` /proc/bus/pci Riley Williams
2003-06-13  8:43           ` /proc/bus/pci Olivier Galibert
2003-06-13 16:28           ` /proc/bus/pci Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-06-13 17:59             ` /proc/bus/pci Riley Williams
2003-06-13 19:37               ` /proc/bus/pci Mr. James W. Laferriere
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-09 17:03 /proc/bus/pci Grover, Andrew

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