Re: Recent spam

[Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>]

On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 10:57, Chris Dukes wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 05:26:34PM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote:
> > This is a bit inconsiderate of you, don't you think?  Why don't you just 
> > unsubscribe?  I have a sysadmin with too many tasks to get them done, 
> > and he doesn't need his time wasted with such crap as dealing with spamcop.
> 
> Hans,
> <rant>
> What is inconsiderate is continueing to allow ALL spam to pass through
> such that if anyone tries to report it to shut down the spammer,
> the only origination information is namesys.
> 
> What is inconsiderate is taking the time to flag some of these spams
> as spam, but not taking the time to forward them off to a bucket for
> approval or disposal (And multiple people can sort through the spam,
> so don't blame your overworked sysadmin.

Heh, time spent moderating messages would either be by Hans' sysadmin or
his coders.  I'd just as soon see the tagged messages deleted.

> </rant>
> <suggestion>
> If namesys' admin is unable or unwilling to get the namesys mailing
> lists to cease being anonymous injection points for SPAM, perhaps
> you should contract out the management of the mailing list.
> Considering past incidents (like the mailloop), it may solve problems
> beyond SPAM.
> </suggestion>
> <morerant>
> It isn't like namesys has a clean reputation with spam anyways.
> A significant number are people are annoyed with the advertising
> that has been added to the reiserfs tools.  The spam on the list
> only furthers the perception that namesys approves, endorses, and
> actively engages in unsolicited advertising.

These two are unrelated.  SPAM is a fact of life on the internet, list
admins have a responsibility to try and make things better for list
subscribers, how well namesys meets is directly related to the quality
of the list and its content.

Regardless of if you like the reiserfs tools messages (I never have),
those ads are not unsolicited.  He's not driving down the road with a
loudspeaker, you ran mkreiserfs because you wanted to use the product. 
Once again, it is Hans' responsibility to keep things reasonable if he
actually wants to keep his users, and our responsibility to remember
bills have to get paid, even in the free software world.

-chris