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From: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sf.net>
To: linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: axboe@suse.de, guichaz@yahoo.fr
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cfq + io priorities
Date: 09 Nov 2003 20:49:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1068428977.722.65.camel@cube> (raw)

Jens Axboe writes:
> On Sun, Nov 09 2003, Guillaume Chazarain wrote:

>> A process has an assigned io nice level, anywhere
>> from 0 to 20. Both of
>>
>> OK, I ask THE question : why not using the normal
>> nice level, via current->static_prio ? This way,
>> cdrecord would be RT even in IO, and nice -19
>> updatedb would have a minimal impact on the system.
>
> I don't want to tie io prioritites to cpu
> priorities, that's a design decision.

Sure, but do it in a way that's friendly to
all the apps and admins that only know "nice".

nice_cpu   sets CPU niceness
nice_net   sets net niceness
nice_disk  sets disk niceness
...
nice       sets all niceness values at once

>>> these end values are "special" - 0 means the process
>>> is only allowed to do io if the disk is idle, and 20
>>> means the process io is considered
>>
>> So a process with ioprio == 0 can be forever
>> starved. As it's not
>
> Yes
>
>> done this way for nice -19 tasks (unlike FreeBSD),
>> wouldn't it be safer to give a very long deadline
>> to ioprio == 0 requests ?
>
> ioprio == 0 means idle IO. It follows from that that
> you can risk infinite starvation if other io is happening.
> Otherwise it would not be idle io :-)
>
> CFQ doesn't assign request deadlines. That would
> be another way of handling starvation.

Keeping IO niceness as similar to CPU niceness as
you can would be very good for admins.



             reply	other threads:[~2003-11-10  2:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-10  1:49 Albert Cahalan [this message]
2003-11-10 10:19 ` [PATCH] cfq + io priorities Herbert Xu
2003-11-10 10:36   ` Ali Magik Rama
2003-11-10 13:07   ` [PATCH] cfq + io priorities Albert Cahalan
2003-11-10 13:31     ` P
2003-11-10 13:37       ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-10 13:57         ` P
2003-11-10 23:52         ` Albert Cahalan
2003-11-18  9:27           ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-11 17:46     ` Toon van der Pas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-11-09 10:57 Guillaume Chazarain
2003-11-09 11:39 ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-13 12:54   ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-16 22:56     ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-11-17  8:14     ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-18 13:26       ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-18 13:32         ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-18 13:38           ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-08 12:47 Jens Axboe
2003-11-08 13:25 ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-08 14:06   ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-09 21:30 ` Shailabh Nagar
2003-11-09 21:34   ` Jens Axboe

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