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From: Rob Love <rml@ximian.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add sysfs mem device support  [2/4]
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:56:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1072202194.3472.19.camel@fur> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031223163904.A8589@infradead.org>

On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 11:39, Christoph Hellwig wrote:

> I disagree. For fully static devices like the mem devices the udev indirection
> is completely superflous.

I see your point, so I really do not want to argue, but here is my
rationale for why everything should be done seamlessly via udev:

In a nutshell, we want a single, clean, automatic solution to device
naming.  If some "static" devices are hard coded, we introduce a special
case.  Why do that?  Why have special cases when udev can seamlessly
manage the whole thing?  Say we decide to remove /dev/foo in the kernel
- that should be reflected in udev simply by way of it no longer being
created on boot.

That is my thoughts.  I dislike special casing.  And without it, udev
can seamlessly handle everything, automatically.

But I _do_ see your point.  It is silly to generate a hotplug event for
a static device on every boot, etc. etc.  But I think the cleanliness of
not special casing certain devices in the udev solution is worth it.

	Rob Love



  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-23 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-23  0:21 [PATCH] some sysfs patches for 2.6.0 [0/4] Greg KH
2003-12-23  0:24 ` [PATCH] fix sysfs oops [1/4] Greg KH
2003-12-23  0:26   ` [PATCH] add sysfs mem device support [2/4] Greg KH
2003-12-23  0:28     ` [PATCH] add sysfs misc device support [3/4] Greg KH
2003-12-23  0:28       ` [PATCH] add sysfs vc device support [4/4] Greg KH
2003-12-23 13:17         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-23  0:29       ` [PATCH] add sysfs misc device support [3/4] Greg KH
2003-12-23 13:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-23 13:15     ` [PATCH] add sysfs mem device support [2/4] Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-23 15:31       ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 16:07         ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 16:39         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-23 17:56           ` Rob Love [this message]
2003-12-23 20:00           ` Stephan Maciej
2003-12-23 20:33             ` viro
2003-12-25 17:48           ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-25 18:45             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-25 19:41               ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-25 20:57                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-25 22:02                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-26 16:19                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-26 16:54                   ` Tomasz Torcz
2003-12-26 20:18                     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-23 18:01       ` Greg KH
2003-12-23 19:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-23 19:19           ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 19:22             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-23 19:25               ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 19:42                 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-23 19:45                   ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 19:24             ` viro
2003-12-23 19:28               ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 11:07 ` [PATCH] some sysfs patches for 2.6.0 [0/4] Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-23 23:26   ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-23  0:26 [PATCH] add sysfs mem device support [2/4] Greg KH
2003-12-23 13:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-23 15:31 ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 16:07 ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 16:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-23 17:56 ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 18:01 ` Greg KH
2003-12-23 19:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-23 19:19 ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 19:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-23 19:24 ` viro
2003-12-23 19:25 ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 19:28 ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 19:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-23 19:45 ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 20:00 ` Stephan Maciej
2003-12-23 20:33 ` viro

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