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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr>
Cc: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>,
	Linux Fbdev development list
	<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix switch from XFree
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:17:21 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1076411840.874.18.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040210110622.GA1913@lambda>


> Mmm, i wonder about this. The X driver is supposed to be responsible for
> saving and reseting the engine when leaving/entering. This is usually
> done in a separate way when using or not using fbdev.

This is a nice dream. It's both _very_ impractical (you can't always
_read_ the engine state) and usually buggy as hell (and go fix XFree :)

On the other hand, it's very simple for the driver to just reset &
restore the engine state it expects.

> Now, if we are going to save/restore the contect too, then this would
> mean a risk of dual saving the engine state. Or maybe the X server
> doesn't really save the context, but just reinitialize it when entering.

It tries too for the mode... but fails. It doesn't try for the engine

> I have the feeling that more working together would be helpfull, or
> maybe setup a proper policy for X/fbdev to handle this properly.

I don't think it's reasonable to expect the XFree driver to save/restore
the accel engine state. It's already quite broken with the mode on
radeonfb (the VGA stuff seem to do bad things on PPC at least).

> Maybe the fbdev driver could set a flag or something, which would tell
> the X server that it is taking charge of saving/restoring the accel
> engine, so the X driver would not try doing this too, at least in the
> UseFBDev case (but do we care about the other case ?).

No. Trying to save/restore the engine state would mean trying to
save/restore dozens (or hundreds maybe ? depends if you count the 3D
engine too :), it makes little sense, it's much simpler for fbdev
to just reset the state it expects.

Ben.




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  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-10 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-10 10:36 [PATCH] Fix switch from XFree Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-02-10 11:06 ` Sven Luther
2004-02-10 11:17   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2004-02-10 11:28     ` Sven Luther
2004-02-10 11:31       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-02-10 12:34         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-02-10 22:13           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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