From: Redeeman <redeeman@metanurb.dk>
To: Reiserfs Mailinglist <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: Desktop Filesystem Benchmarks in 2.6.3
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 13:15:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1078661754.5798.0.camel@redeeman.linux.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1078586701.6237.0.camel@redeeman.linux.dk>
On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 19:46, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > It would be nice if someone with more profound knowledge could comment
> > on this, but my understanding of the problem is:
> >
> > - journaled filesystems can only work when they can enforce that
> > journal data is written to the platters at specifc times wrt
> > normal data writes
> > - IDE write caching makes the disk "lie" to the kernel, i.e. it says
> > "I've written the data" when it was only put in the cache
> > - now if a *power failure* keeps the disk from writing the cache
> > contents to the platter, the fs and journal are inconsistent
> > (a kernel crash would not cause this problem because the disk can
> > still write the cache contents to the platters)
> > - at next mount time the fs will read the journal from the disk
> > and try to use it to bring the fs into a consistent state;
> > however, since the journal on disk is not guaranteed to be up to date
> > this can *fail* (I have no idea what various fs implementations do
> > to handle this; I suspect they at least refuse to mount and require
> > you to manually run fsck. Or they don't notice and let you work
> > with a corrupt filesystem until they blow up.)
> >
> > Right? Or is this just paranoia?
>
> Twice a year I fsck my reiser drives, and yes there's some corruption there.
> So you are right, and its not paranoia.
AAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!
i have a reiserfs partition with my maildir, i have often lost power,
but i havent fscked, will that mean great chances that i have lost
something??
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-07 12:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-02 4:46 Desktop Filesystem Benchmarks in 2.6.3 Peter Nelson
2004-03-02 4:46 ` Peter Nelson
2004-03-02 7:23 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-02 16:34 ` Peter Nelson
2004-03-02 22:33 ` Dax Kelson
2004-03-02 22:47 ` David Weinehall
2004-03-03 1:30 ` Andrew Ho
2004-03-03 1:30 ` Andrew Ho
2004-03-03 1:41 ` David Weinehall
[not found] ` <20040303014115.GP19111@khan.acc.umu.se.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-03-03 2:39 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-03 7:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-03 8:03 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-03 8:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-03 9:35 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-03 17:29 ` Hubert Chan
2004-03-04 0:10 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-03 6:00 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-03-03 9:43 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-03-03 9:59 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-03-03 10:19 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-03-03 10:49 ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-03-03 10:56 ` Mihai RUSU
2004-03-03 13:58 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-04 9:28 ` Kristian Köhntopp
2004-03-05 1:59 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-03-05 4:21 ` cami
2004-03-05 20:52 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-03-05 22:30 ` cami
2004-03-07 4:50 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-03-03 10:24 ` Mike Gigante
2004-03-03 10:24 ` Mike Gigante
2004-03-03 13:14 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-03-03 14:16 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-03 13:42 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-03 10:13 ` Olaf Frączyk
2004-03-03 13:07 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-03-03 13:07 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-03-04 14:37 ` [Jfs-discussion] " Pascal Gienger
2004-03-04 20:43 ` Per Andreas Buer
2004-03-03 6:30 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-03 23:41 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-03-05 18:46 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <1078586701.6237.0.camel@redeeman.linux.dk>
2004-03-07 12:15 ` Redeeman [this message]
2004-03-16 8:16 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2004-03-06 0:16 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-06 0:16 ` Chris Mason
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2004-03-02 17:11 Ray Lee
2004-03-05 3:32 Burnes, James
2004-03-05 3:48 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
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