From: Fruhwirth Clemens <clemens-dated-1091746774.c9dd@endorphin.org>
To: Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Delete cryptoloop
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:59:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1090882773.13338.128.camel@ghanima> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41054966.2D74437E@users.sourceforge.net>
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On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 20:11, Jari Ruusu wrote:
> Fruhwirth, what you have failed to understand is that the exploit does does
> not exploit flaws in any cipher, but cryptoloop's and dm-crypt's insecure
> use of those ciphers. Any block cipher that encrypts two identical plaintext
> blocks using same key and produces two identical ciphertext blocks will do.
> It is all about tricking a cipher to encrypt two identical plaintext blocks,
> which, after encryption will show up as two identical ciptext blocks. And
> those identical ciphertext blocks can be easily detected and counted.
Rusuu, you failed to understand that I not only understood your attack,
but also disregard it as minor imperfection (warning: personal opinion).
Reason:
This watermarking evidence can't be used at court, because it does not
reveal the content (at least not in my country!). Even if the
watermarking domain has a bigger cardinality than 32, I doubt the
practical implications.
However, if you haven't understood it already, one more time just for
you: I vote for changing the IV scheme, see my posting from 23.2.2004
[1]. But as you might not know (because you never contributed anything
substantial to the kernel): Kernel developers try to get things right,
and using CryptoAPI for hashing IVs results in some problems if one
wants to avoid reinitializing the context every call:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=107721067317841&w=2
[1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=107749648717666&w=2
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Fruhwirth Clemens <clemens@endorphin.org> http://clemens.endorphin.org
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-21 20:16 [PATCH] Delete cryptoloop James Morris
2004-07-21 23:44 ` David S. Miller
2004-07-22 6:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22 3:30 ` James Morris
2004-07-22 7:43 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-07-22 14:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-07-22 14:58 ` Jack Lloyd
2004-07-28 20:24 ` David Wagner
2004-07-29 0:27 ` James Morris
2004-07-29 15:50 ` Christophe Saout
2004-07-29 21:15 ` David Wagner
2004-07-30 13:13 ` Christophe Saout
2004-07-31 0:44 ` David Wagner
2004-07-31 2:05 ` Matt Mackall
2004-07-31 17:29 ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-02 22:54 ` David Wagner
2004-08-02 23:16 ` James Morris
2004-08-07 16:27 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-07-22 4:26 ` dpf-lkml
2004-07-22 5:22 ` James Morris
2004-07-22 11:58 ` Paul Rolland
2004-07-22 20:40 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-07-22 8:46 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22 6:13 ` Dale Fountain
2004-07-22 6:47 ` Tim Connors
2004-07-22 15:02 ` Petr Baudis
2004-07-22 11:36 ` Aiko Barz
2004-07-24 15:11 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2004-07-24 15:53 ` gadgeteer
2004-07-29 16:12 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-29 17:23 ` James Morris
2004-07-29 19:48 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-22 22:13 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-24 12:41 ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-24 16:52 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-24 14:08 ` Andreas Henriksson
2004-07-24 19:54 ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-27 20:02 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-25 11:42 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-07-25 13:24 ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-25 15:24 ` Marc Ballarin
2004-07-25 16:57 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2004-07-25 17:25 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-07-25 18:02 ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-25 19:09 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-25 19:15 ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-25 19:44 ` Marc Ballarin
2004-07-25 20:58 ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-26 10:54 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-07-26 12:45 ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-26 18:11 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-07-26 22:59 ` Fruhwirth Clemens [this message]
2004-07-26 20:01 ` Matt Mackall
[not found] ` <fa.edslbgp.q763qd@ifi.uio.no>
2004-07-27 8:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2004-07-27 8:53 ` Matt Mackall
2004-07-27 10:10 ` Marc Ballarin
2004-07-26 22:04 ` Marc Ballarin
2004-07-27 19:56 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] <2kMAw-rl-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-07-22 19:44 ` Pascal Brisset
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2004-07-23 10:59 Thomas Habets
[not found] <2kvT4-5AY-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <2kC85-1AH-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <2kDxa-2sB-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <2kECW-3a0-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-07-23 12:34 ` Walter Hofmann
2004-07-23 14:01 ` Kevin Corry
2004-07-23 18:20 ` Christophe Saout
2004-07-27 19:47 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-23 12:50 mattia
2004-07-26 7:13 Adam J. Richter
2004-07-30 8:43 Markku-Juhani O. Saarinen
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