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From: Len Brown <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Stefan Schweizer <sschweizer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: ACPI Developers
	<acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: patch to include a custom dsdt]]
Date: 09 Aug 2004 15:41:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1092080468.5021.27.camel@dhcppc4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7963922040809112873fd7be4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 14:28, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> On 09 Aug 2004 12:59:16 -0400, Len Brown <len.brown <at> intel.com>
> wrote:
> > This looks handy.
> > comments?
> 
> You should take the patch of Michael Blumenstein for initrd support:
> 
> http://gaugusch.at/kernel.shtml
> 
> http://gaugusch.at/acpi-dsdt-initrd-patches/acpi-dsdt-initrd-patch-v0.4-2.6.7.patch
> 
> I use it and I can confirm that it works :)

Yes, the dsdt-in-initrd patch works.
Yes, it is perfect for the unfortunate but determined soul who
administers a variety of broken machines where they all run the same
kernel and require a different DSDT -- I really do feel sorry for that
person and look forward to the day they find non-broken hardware.

But DSDT overrides are for developers, not end-users, not customers.
Nobody can support the OEM's firmware, or a modified version of it
except the OEM themselves.  If a developer happens to fix an OEM's
firmware and sends the OEM the fix, that happy situation is purely
between the end-user and the OEM.  Distros should absolutely never
be in the business of supporting hardware running modified firmware.

I think that one major Distro pulled the dsdt-in-initrd patch, and I
think it was a mistake for them to do so -- they can't support it.

That said, it is useful for developers to be able to override the DSDT.
There are two methods -- re-build kernel or re-build kernel and also
modify the initrd.

Kernel re-build is (I think) simple enought.  I think the patch at hand
takes it from simple to trivial.

Kernel re-build + initrd update I dislike because it depends on the
existence of an initrd (not everybody uses has an initrd, I haven't used
an initrd in over a year), and worse, it depends on the format of the
initrd, which we don't control.

Anyway, I hope that my position, and the reason I haven't pulled the
perfectly functional and useful dsdt-in-initrd patch before is clear.

Any comments on the patch at hand?

thanks,
-Len




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-09 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-09 16:59 [Fwd: [Fwd: patch to include a custom dsdt]] Len Brown
2004-08-09 17:49 ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]   ` <20040809174935.GA20719-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2004-08-09 19:23     ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-08-09 18:28 ` Stefan Schweizer
     [not found]   ` <e7963922040809112873fd7be4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2004-08-09 19:41     ` Len Brown [this message]
2004-08-09 20:02       ` Stefan Schweizer
2004-08-09 20:07       ` Karol Kozimor
2004-08-09 20:30       ` Herman Sheremetyev
2004-08-11  6:20       ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-08-16  7:20 ` Pavel Machek

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