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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Bernd Eckenfels <ecki-news2004-05@lina.inka.de>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: New concept of ext3 disk checks
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:07:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1092344835.1090.74.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1BvKmO-0002dn-00@calista.eckenfels.6bone.ka-ip.net>

On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 14:58, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:

> I am not sure why the softupdates are so reliable, that no fsck is needed

Softupdates were introduced to enhance performance by batching and
deferring disk operations.  I belive that initially, performance was the
only consideration in determining what actually got written to disk
when.  All the BSD/OS manuals I read at my last job warn against
enabling softupdates because data loss could occur.

Someone later realized that if you batch the disk operations in a way
that considers the atomicity of the filesystem operations being
implemented, softupdates can help *ensure* data integrity.  This is a
pretty recent development I think.

Lee


  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-12 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-12 17:58 New concept of ext3 disk checks Otto Wyss
2004-08-12 18:58 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-08-12 21:07   ` Lee Revell [this message]
2004-08-12 19:46 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-14  7:26   ` Otto Wyss
2004-08-12 22:39 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-08-12 23:55   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-08-13  0:34   ` Andreas Dilger
2004-08-14  7:15     ` Otto Wyss
2004-08-15  0:23       ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found] <2ssbz-jB-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <2swyz-3ny-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-08-12 23:24   ` Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 23:48     ` Theodore Ts'o

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