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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
To: Robert Love <rml@ximian.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, kay.sievers@vrfy.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] kernel sysfs events layer
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 09:35:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1094369728.2809.3.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1094353088.2591.19.camel@localhost>

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> Look, I agree that unifying the two ideas and transports as much as
> possible is the right way to proceed.  But the fact is, as you said,
> transports _are_ important.  And simply always sending out a hotplug
> event _and_ a netlink event is silly and superfluous.  We need to make
> up our minds.

in addition I consider the 2 *uses* ortogonal. Hotplug historically has
been 1) reasonably heavy weight and 2) concerned with hardware changes.
General events such as say, "thermal throttling started" could of course
be munged into hotplug but to me that is something artificial.
Saying "look ma, the interfaces have the same types, so it has to be one
function" is imo the wrong thing to do. The usage is different (although
I will admit there is an overlapping area). The cost of sending a
message is different. 

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-05  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-31 21:42 [patch] kernel sysfs events layer Robert Love
2004-08-31 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-31 21:58   ` Robert Love
     [not found]     ` <20040831150645.4aa8fd27.akpm@osdl.org>
2004-08-31 22:05       ` Robert Love
2004-09-02  8:34         ` Greg KH
2004-09-02 12:02           ` Daniel Stekloff
2004-09-02 13:26             ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-02 16:27               ` Robert Love
2004-09-02 20:29                 ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-02 12:49           ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-02 16:25           ` Robert Love
2004-09-02 18:35             ` Daniel Stekloff
2004-09-02 18:41               ` Robert Love
2004-09-04  0:54             ` Greg KH
2004-09-05  2:18               ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-05  3:01                 ` Robert Love
2004-09-05  2:58               ` Robert Love
2004-09-05  7:35                 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2004-09-05 12:18                 ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-06  2:06                   ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-10 23:54                     ` Greg KH
2004-09-11  0:18                       ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-11  0:48                         ` Greg KH
2004-09-11  1:23                           ` Daniel Stekloff
2004-09-11  4:45                             ` Robert Love
2004-09-11  1:45                           ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-11 16:56                             ` Greg KH
2004-09-11 11:35                           ` Dave Jones
2004-09-11 18:15                             ` Greg KH
2004-09-11  4:09                       ` Robert Love
2004-09-11 16:53                         ` Greg KH
2004-09-13 14:45                           ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-15  0:07                             ` Greg KH
2004-09-15  1:09                               ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-15  1:11                                 ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15  2:10                                   ` Robert Love
2004-09-15  3:17                                     ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15  3:42                                       ` Greg KH
2004-09-15  4:48                                         ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15  5:09                                           ` Greg KH
2004-09-15  6:21                                             ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15  6:45                                               ` Jan Dittmer
2004-09-15  6:47                                                 ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15  6:50                                                   ` Jan Dittmer
     [not found]                                                     ` <20040915065515.GA11587@hockin.org>
2004-09-15  7:39                                                       ` Jan Dittmer
2004-09-15  7:56                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2004-09-15  8:32                                                           ` Jan Dittmer
2004-09-15 14:24                                                             ` Paul Jackson
2004-09-15  8:19                                                 ` Karol Kozimor
2004-09-15 15:48                                                   ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15 16:11                                                     ` Jan Dittmer
2004-09-15 13:14                                               ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-15 21:27                                               ` Greg KH
2004-09-15  9:07                                           ` Andrew Grover
2004-09-15 18:58                                             ` Robert Love
2004-09-15  3:48                                 ` Greg KH
2004-09-15  1:19                               ` Robert Love
2004-09-15  3:44                                 ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 19:40                                   ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 20:10                                     ` Robert Love
2004-09-15 20:22                                       ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15 20:26                                         ` Robert Love
2004-09-15 20:31                                           ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15 20:33                                             ` Robert Love
2004-09-15 20:47                                               ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15 20:49                                                 ` Robert Love
2004-09-15 20:56                                                   ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15 21:01                                                     ` Robert Love
2004-09-15 21:03                                                     ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-15 21:23                                                     ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 21:26                                                       ` Robert Love
2004-09-15 21:34                                                         ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15 21:38                                                           ` Robert Love
2004-09-16  1:21                                                             ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-16  4:08                                                               ` Greg KH
2004-09-16 14:10                                                                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-16 15:08                                                                   ` Greg KH
2004-09-16 18:33                                                                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-15 21:35                                                         ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 21:46                                                           ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15 21:47                                                             ` Robert Love
2004-09-15 21:38                                                         ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-15 21:39                                                           ` Robert Love
2004-09-15 21:49                                                             ` Tim Hockin
2004-09-15 21:54                                                               ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 20:34                                             ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-15 21:21                                       ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 21:26                                         ` Robert Love
2004-09-15 21:34                                           ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-15 21:35                                           ` Greg KH
2005-07-06 22:02                     ` Mike Snitzer
2005-07-06 22:18                       ` Greg KH
2004-09-05  3:59               ` Robert Love
2004-08-31 21:58 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-08-31 22:02   ` Robert Love
2004-08-31 22:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-31 22:00   ` Robert Love
2004-08-31 22:10     ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-31 22:08       ` Robert Love
2004-09-01  2:05 ` Daniel Stekloff
2004-09-01 10:07   ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-02 20:45     ` Daniel Stekloff
2004-09-02 22:15       ` Kay Sievers
2004-09-03 23:59         ` Daniel Stekloff
2004-09-04  8:14           ` Greg KH

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