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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: dedekind@infradead.org
Cc: MTD List <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: JFFS3 & performance
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:04:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1106431453.6932.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1106399029.29388.50.camel@sauron.oktetlabs.ru>

On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 16:03 +0300, Artem B. Bityuckiy wrote:
> 2. Worse, compression impacts JFFS2 design globally. You know, that the
> maximum amount of data JFFS2 may store in one inode node is the size of
> RAM page, most often 4K. 
> 
> Q: Why we restrict ourself with this size? 
> A: Because of compression.

It's not just compression that restricts us to 4KiB. Compressing in
larger chunks isn't hard -- zisofs does it, for example. The real
problem is the larger buffers you need for garbage collection. It's not
impossible to fix that though.

We've always intended to have a per-inode attribute for user-specified
compression parameters; the most basic of which would be 'no
compression'. I originally intended to expose those as attributes in the
way that 'chattr' works, with an ioctl on the file -- but I suspect
xattrs would be a better approach nowadays.

Compression has other drawbacks though -- if you throw out compression
you can do fixed-size records, you can have a block-based architecture
and simplify your metadata, ...

-- 
dwmw2

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-22 22:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-11 12:29 JFFS3 & performance Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-11 14:37 ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-11 21:51 ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12  0:06   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 16:59     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:37       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 18:17         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12  9:15   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 16:41     ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 17:02       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:06         ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:11           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:22         ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 17:28           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 17:34           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:45             ` Dan Post
2005-01-12 17:52               ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:14       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 22:30         ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 22:43           ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-12 22:55             ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-13 15:50               ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-13 18:30                 ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-13 18:36                   ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13 19:06                     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 19:22                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-13 18:55                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 19:10                     ` Brian Fox
2005-01-13 19:23                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-28  6:08                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-13  7:54             ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13  8:25           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:09           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:10     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 18:40         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:42           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 18:43           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 19:16           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 19:44             ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 19:53               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 20:06                 ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:33       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 18:43         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:45           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 18:58             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 19:50               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 14:49   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:05     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:17       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 15:22         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:40           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 15:49             ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13 15:53               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:13               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 16:16                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:21                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 16:22                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:21                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-14 13:46                   ` Jamey Hicks
2005-01-14 14:16                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-18 15:50                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2005-01-19 13:07                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 15:24                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 15:27                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 15:32                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 15:51                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 16:31                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 19:58                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 14:35                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 14:37                                     ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-20 14:40                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 15:05                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 15:27                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 15:37                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 16:13                                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 16:31                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 16:41                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 17:08                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 17:33                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 17:57                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 12:44                                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 13:13                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 13:42                                                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 13:52                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 14:00                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 14:04                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-25 10:51                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-25 10:56                                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-25 11:13                                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 14:30                                                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-21 22:33                                     ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-21 22:46                                   ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-21 23:54                                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-22 13:03                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-22 22:04                                       ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2005-01-23 10:03                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-23 10:08                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-23 11:04                                           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-23 11:55                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-16 13:20 Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 14:27 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 14:45   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 14:50     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 15:00       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 17:53     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 18:42       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 19:15         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 19:49           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 19:58             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 20:46               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 20:02             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 20:37               ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-16 20:51                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 21:02                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-16 21:06                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 21:22                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 22:06                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 10:25                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 10:44                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 10:56                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-17 10:46                               ` jasmine
2004-12-17 11:01                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-17 11:19                                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:09                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 16:26                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:52                                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:10                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 11:20                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 13:36                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 14:03                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 14:44                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:14                                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 15:25                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:08                                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 20:22                                             ` xemc
2004-12-22 20:43                                               ` xemc
2004-12-22 20:49                                                 ` Jasmine Strong
2004-12-22 15:30                                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 15:37                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:47                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 15:56                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:09                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:17                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:43                                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 16:46                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 17:26                                                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 18:14                                                         ` xemc
2004-12-22 18:20                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-23 13:52                                                           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-23 17:02                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 11:10                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 11:09                                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-07 11:27                                                                   ` jasmine
2005-01-07 11:43                                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:23                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:27                                                                         ` jasmine
2005-01-07 14:33                                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:37                                                                             ` jasmine
2005-01-07 14:43                                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:55                                                                                 ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:20                                                                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 15:24                                                                                     ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:28                                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 15:31                                                                                         ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:32                                                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 17:57                                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:50                                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:31                                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-06 10:08                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-08 20:14                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-09 11:39                                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-10 14:24                                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 15:59                                                 ` jasmine
2004-12-22 16:19                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:21                                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:56                                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:39                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 17:33                                                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:20                               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 12:23                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-21 14:45       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-21 16:03         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:33 ` David Vrabel
2004-12-17 15:34   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:14   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 16:25     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:39       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 17:10     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 17:19       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 17:51         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 17:59           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 18:13             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-19  3:05               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 18:09           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-21 14:38 ` Jörn Engel

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