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From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v. A2)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 10:14:32 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1107299672.13413.25.camel@desktop.cunninghams> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1107298089.2040.184.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com>

Hi John and Tim.

On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 09:48, john stultz wrote:
> > I didn't scan for all uses of read_persistent_clock, but
> > in my experience get_cmos_time() has a latency of up to
> > 1 second on x86 because it synchronizes with the rollover
> > of the RTC seconds.
> 
> I believe you're right. Although we don't call read_persistent_clock()
> very frequently, nor do we call it in ways we don't already call
> get_cmos_time(). So I'm not sure exactly what the concern is.

Tim and I talked about this at the recent CELF conference. I have a
concern in that suspend-to-disk calls the suspend methods and then
(after the atomic copy) the resume methods. Since the copy usually takes
< 1s, and the suspend and resume methods both make two calls to
get_coms_time, that's an average of 1.5s per suspend call and 1.5s per
resume call - but if the copy does take next to no time (as normal),
it's really 1.5s + 2s = 3.5s average just for getting the time. I
believe Tim has similar issues in code he is working on. It's a concern
if your battery is running out and you're trying to hibernate!

[...]

> I've only lightly tested the suspend code, but on my system I didn't see
> very much drift appear. Regardless, it should be better then what the
> current suspend/resume code does, which doesn't keep any sub-second
> resolution across suspend.

My question is, "Is there a way we can get sub-second resolution without
waiting for the start of a new second four times in a row?" I'm sure
there must be.

Regards,

Nigel

-- 
Nigel Cunningham
Software Engineer, Canberra, Australia
http://www.cyclades.com

Ph: +61 (2) 6292 8028      Mob: +61 (417) 100 574


  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-01 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-24 22:51 [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v. A2) john stultz
2005-01-24 22:52 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday arch specific hooks " john stultz
2005-01-24 22:53   ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday arch specific timesources " john stultz
2005-01-24 23:29     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-01-25  0:04       ` john stultz
2005-01-25  2:28   ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday arch specific hooks " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-25 23:09     ` john stultz
2005-01-25 23:53       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-26  0:17         ` john stultz
2005-01-26  0:34           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-01-26  3:29             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-26 16:51               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-01-26  3:14           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-24 23:24 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem " Christoph Lameter
2005-01-25  0:03   ` john stultz
2005-01-25  0:08     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-01-25  0:33       ` john stultz
2005-01-25  1:54         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-01-25  7:50           ` Ulrich Windl
2005-01-25 12:25           ` Tim Schmielau
2005-01-25  7:41   ` Ulrich Windl
2005-01-25  8:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-25 23:18   ` john stultz
2005-02-01 22:06 ` Tim Bird
2005-02-01 22:48   ` john stultz
2005-02-01 23:14     ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2005-02-01 23:32       ` john stultz
2005-02-02  0:04         ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-02  0:27           ` john stultz
2005-02-02  0:36             ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-01 23:53     ` Tim Bird
2005-02-02  0:19       ` john stultz
2005-02-02  1:48         ` Tim Bird
2005-02-02  2:00           ` john stultz
2005-02-02  2:23             ` Nigel Cunningham

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