From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D20CS-0004ab-9D for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:57:08 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D20CE-0004U3-5I for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:57:04 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D20CD-0004RZ-Hh for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:56:53 -0500 Received: from [69.17.117.23] (helo=mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1D1zlH-0005vG-S4 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:29:04 -0500 Received: from dsl081-088-222.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO [192.168.111.2]) ([64.81.88.222]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Feb 2005 04:28:59 -0000 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo will stop March 1, 2005 From: "John R. Hogerhuis" In-Reply-To: <421527EB.9060604@bellard.org> References: <200502121018.09039.jm@poure.com> <20050217215350.GB1446@mail.13thfloor.at> <421527EB.9060604@bellard.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:29:53 -0800 Message-Id: <1108700993.18898.119.camel@aragorn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: jhoger@pobox.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Fabrice, I've followed this project for a while, and though I'm not surprised the zealots are coming out of the woodwork, I am surprised by the vehemence of some of the long time users. I think your strategy is sound. You need a benefactor, and QEMU is certainly useful enough to deserve that. I don't see the problem of using your new kqemu as a temporary lever to get you and your project to the next level. No one is losing anything, and if your strategy works, everybody will gain. My point of view: Free software isn't about being Jesus, holding hands and singing Kumbaya... it's about getting what we want, the way we want it... Free, Open Source, High Quality, Soon, and without putting developers in the poor house. If you have a stategy in mind to maximize those benefits, utilizing some new code you wrote, I say, why the heck not? I hope your lever gets what you want. All of this doom-and-gloom is just a lot of noise, the way you've licensed this from the beginning as free and open source, your other FLOSS projects, and should engender a lot more trust than people seem to be granting you. The conspiracy theories about QEMU-fast are absolutely ludicrous. It was a kludge, a stop-gap dead-end. Patched kernels is really not a long term solution. Good for what it was. Personally I never bothered running qemu-fast. Good luck with your strategy, I hope it works out. -- John.