From: Natanael Copa <mlists@tanael.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: forkbombing Linux distributions
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:09:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1111511373.23155.41.camel@nc> (raw)
Hi list!
(I'm new to this list so I'm sorry this mail has not correct thread id)
I have been following this forkbombing discussions and I would like to
point out a few things:
* When setting limits /etc/limits (or /etc/security/limits.conf) you
will prevent logged in users to fork too many processes. However, this
setting will not prevent a missbehaving daemon that is started from a
bootscript to fork too many processes, even if running as non root.
* Linux is very generous allowing maximum numbers of processes for
non-root users by default in comparation to other *nixes.
The kernel defaults is calculated from the amount of RAM in
kernel/fork.c with in those lines:
max_threads = mempages / (8 * THREAD_SIZE / PAGE_SIZE);
/*
* we need to allow at least 20 threads to boot a system
*/
if(max_threads < 20)
max_threads = 20;
init_task.signal->rlim[RLIMIT_NPROC].rlim_cur = max_threads/2;
init_task.signal->rlim[RLIMIT_NPROC].rlim_max = max_threads/2;
The forkbomb is mentioned already in 2001-06-18 by Rik van Riel that
suggested mempages / (16 * THREAD_SIZE / PAGE_SIZE)
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=99283072806620&w=2
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=99617386529767&w=2
But I cannot find out why it was set back again to 8 * ... I think this
is the main reason that almost all distros are vulerable to the stupid
fork bomb attack.
Would it be an idea to set it back to:
mempages / (16 * THREAD_SIZE / PAGE_SIZE)
and let the sysadmins raise the limit with /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max
if they need more?
--
Natanael Copa
next reply other threads:[~2005-03-22 17:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-22 17:09 Natanael Copa [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-30 17:40 forkbombing Linux distributions Jacek Łuczak
2005-03-31 10:00 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-31 17:11 ` Lee Revell
2005-04-05 9:47 ` Natanael Copa
2005-04-05 10:18 ` Jacek Luczak
2005-03-28 17:28 Matthieu Castet
2005-03-28 17:56 ` folkert
2005-03-28 19:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 19:39 ` folkert
2005-03-28 20:35 ` Renate Meijer
2005-03-29 12:31 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-30 23:46 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-03-31 6:55 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-31 7:09 ` Jacek Łuczak
2005-03-21 3:06 William Beebe
2005-03-21 3:22 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-21 3:26 ` William Beebe
2005-03-21 3:27 ` Peter Chubb
2005-03-21 5:14 ` Grant Coady
2005-03-21 7:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-22 11:26 ` Hikaru1
2005-03-22 11:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
[not found] ` <20050322124812.GB18256@roll>
2005-03-22 12:50 ` Hikaru1
2005-03-23 10:56 ` aq
2005-03-23 12:37 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 13:04 ` aq
2005-03-23 13:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-23 13:54 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 14:20 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-03-23 14:43 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-23 15:04 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-24 7:07 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-24 10:05 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 19:38 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-23 20:26 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 17:05 ` aq
2005-03-23 18:05 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-23 18:44 ` aq
2005-03-23 20:15 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 20:48 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 13:45 ` Erik Mouw
2005-03-23 14:03 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 13:53 ` Max Kellermann
2005-03-23 14:23 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 14:27 ` Max Kellermann
2005-03-23 14:44 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 14:52 ` Max Kellermann
2005-03-23 15:18 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-26 10:37 ` Tux
2005-03-28 8:03 ` Natanael Copa
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