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From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: bluez-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bluez-users] pand seem to ignore any pin configurations
Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 17:46:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1115567196.9031.113.camel@pegasus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200505081727.29246.rdorsch@web.de>

Hi Rainer,

> > > > if you use "security user" then the PIN is provided through the PIN
> > > > helper script.
> > >
> > > and auto just uses the pin in
> > >
> > > /etc/bluetooth/pin ?
> >
> > for incoming connection, yes.
> >
> > > Then all the helper scripts in the net which print out
> > >
> > > PIN: <content of /etc/bluetooth/pin>
> > >
> > > are nonsense?
> >
> > No. Why should they. The script got called and then it reads the pin and
> > writes it to standard out. Think about it ;)
> 
> Wouldn't be
> 
> security auto 
> 
> the same as
> 
>         security user
>         # PIN helper
>         # pin_helper /usr/bin/bluez-pin;
>         pin_helper /usr/local/sbin/mypin
> 
>  and /usr/local/sbin/mypin, containing 
> 
>         #!/bin/sh
>         PIN=`cat /etc/bluetooth/pin`
>         echo "PIN:$PIN"
> 
> ?

in this special case, yes. But in most cases you use a graphical PIN
helper.

> > > Hmm....is pairing persistent over rebooting one or both systems (NAP:
> > > security auto and PANU: security user)? At least that is what I did and I
> > > did not enter a password. pin_helper is bluez-pin on the PANU, so I
> > > expect that PANU should have querried for a password in any case.
> >
> > The pairing itself is persistent over reboots and also unplugging. The
> > link keys are also cached inside the chip and so Authentication
> > Requested must not always result in asking for the link key or pin code.
> >
> > > Replugging the usb bt dongle restarts bluez-utils. Is pairing persistent
> > > over restarting bluez-utils?
> > >
> > > Is it ok that pand on the PANU dies after connection establishment?
> > >
> > > root      4296  0.0  0.2  1548  492 ?        S<   14:48   0:00
> > > /usr/bin/pand --nodetach --role PANU --search --encrypt
> > > root      4303  0.0  0.2  1548  472 pts/2    S+   14:49   0:00 grep pand
> > > topsi:~# ps uaxwww|grep pand
> > > root      4397  0.0  0.2  1548  472 pts/2    S+   14:50   0:00 grep pand
> > > topsi:~#
> > >
> > >
> > > I did an hcidump after replugging the bt usb dongle on PANU, hcidump is
> > > also
> > >
> > > on PANU:
> > > > HCI Event: Link Key Request (0x17) plen 6
> > >
> > >   0000: 9f 24 82 61 04 00                                 .$.a..
> > > < HCI Command: Link Key Request Reply (0x01|0x000b) plen 22
> > >   0000: 9f 24 82 61 04 00 bf 9c  53 9d f1 8e fb 60 50 c7 
> > > .$.a....S....`P. 0010: 11 26 ac e3 16 06                                
> > > .&....
> > >
> > > > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 10
> > >
> > >     Link Key Request Reply (0x01|0x000b) ncmd 1
> > >     0000: 00 9f 24 82 61 04 00                              ..$.a..
> >
> > It asks for the link key and so you are pairing. To always be asked for
> > the PIN code I think you need to change hcid to allow a mode where you
> > always have to redo the pairing. In this case the Link Key Request must
> > be answered with a Link Key Request Negative Reply. This effect can also
> > be reached by deleted the link key from the local storage.
> 
> Not asking for a PIN each time is actually fine (persisten pairing is a nice 
> invention;-). I just want to check that the system really wants to see a PIN 
> when a new device comes in.
> 
> Are you saying when I delete
> 
> 	/etc/bluetooth/link_key
> 
> on both NAP and PANU I should be askef for a password?

Yes. And with bluez-utils-2.16 the link key storage has been changed.
Check the mailing list archive for more details.

Regards

Marcel




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  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-08 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-07 20:03 [Bluez-users] pand seem to ignore any pin configurations Rainer Dorsch
2005-05-07 20:35 ` Marcel Holtmann
2005-05-07 21:39   ` Rainer Dorsch
2005-05-07 22:02     ` Marcel Holtmann
2005-05-08 13:08       ` Rainer Dorsch
2005-05-08 13:36         ` Marcel Holtmann
2005-05-08 15:27           ` Rainer Dorsch
2005-05-08 15:46             ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2005-05-08 16:24               ` Rainer Dorsch
2005-05-08 16:31                 ` Marcel Holtmann

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