From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Spam Subject: Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:38:08 +0200 Message-ID: <111617109.20040831213808@tnonline.net> References: <41323AD8.7040103@namesys.com> <200408312055.56335.v13@priest.com> <36793180.20040831201736@tnonline.net> <20040831190814.GA15493@thundrix.ch> Reply-To: Spam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <20040831190814.GA15493@thundrix.ch> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Tonnerre Cc: V13 , Hans Reiser , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel , Linus Torvalds , reiserfs-list@namesys.com > Salut, > On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:17:36PM +0200, Spam wrote: >> How are things done on Windows platforms when there are files and >> directories with the same name? In Unix that is imposible. How does >> it work for environments like Cygwin etc? What happen to tools >> that run in them? > In NTFS it's illegal IIRC. At least the fs correction utilities > complain about a block being assigned to two files. I meant a file and a directory with the same name, not two files with the same name :) subtle but important difference. ie, you can have a file named "foo" and a directory named "foo" and they won't collide. > Same with HFS+. > Sometimes there seem to be several things with the same name. But > that's because of hidden extensions (.lnk for example). > I'm talking out of the book here, maybe the real-world implementations > of Windows are different. I can't tell, I only used Windows once to > ssh into a screwed-up router. > Tonnerre From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269019AbUIAArp (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:47:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269050AbUHaTlw (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:41:52 -0400 Received: from c002781a.fit.bostream.se ([217.215.235.8]:21965 "EHLO mail.tnonline.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268873AbUHaTiW (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:38:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:38:08 +0200 From: Spam Reply-To: Spam X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <111617109.20040831213808@tnonline.net> To: Tonnerre CC: V13 , Hans Reiser , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel , Linus Torvalds , Subject: Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why In-Reply-To: <20040831190814.GA15493@thundrix.ch> References: <41323AD8.7040103@namesys.com> <200408312055.56335.v13@priest.com> <36793180.20040831201736@tnonline.net> <20040831190814.GA15493@thundrix.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Salut, > On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:17:36PM +0200, Spam wrote: >> How are things done on Windows platforms when there are files and >> directories with the same name? In Unix that is imposible. How does >> it work for environments like Cygwin etc? What happen to tools >> that run in them? > In NTFS it's illegal IIRC. At least the fs correction utilities > complain about a block being assigned to two files. I meant a file and a directory with the same name, not two files with the same name :) subtle but important difference. ie, you can have a file named "foo" and a directory named "foo" and they won't collide. > Same with HFS+. > Sometimes there seem to be several things with the same name. But > that's because of hidden extensions (.lnk for example). > I'm talking out of the book here, maybe the real-world implementations > of Windows are different. I can't tell, I only used Windows once to > ssh into a screwed-up router. > Tonnerre