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From: fs <fs@ercist.iscas.ac.cn>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kenichi Okuyama <okuyama@intellilink.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [RFD] What error should FS return when I/O failure occurs?
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:47:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1116348446.2428.38.camel@CoolQ> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200505161758.j4GHw4EW009866@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 13:58, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

> You'd be better off pointing out that 'man 2 write' lists the errors
that
> might be returned as:  EBAF, EINVAL, EFAULT, EFBIG, EPIPE, EAGAIN,
EINTR,
> ENOSPC, and EIO.
> 
> Does the POSIX spec allow write() to return -EROFS?
If there is POSIX spec about this issue, I won't post this RFD.  
> What happens if you're writing to an NFS-mounted file system, and the
remote
> system remounts the disk R/O?  What is reported in that case?
So, it's necessary to define the right error in this case.
Each FS will follow this standard, give the defined error;
User can follow this standard, without caring what FS they're using.
 
> > The purpose of this RFD, is to get the community to understand,
> > all I/O related syscalls should return VFS error, not FS error.
> 
> All fine and good, until you hit a case like ext3 where reporting
> the FS error code will better explain the *real* problem than forcing
> it to fit into one of the provided VFS errors.

So, if linux supports a new FS, which returns another error,
does that mean the app should be rewritten to include the new
error? There should be some standards constraint this behavour.

> > User mode app should not care about the FS they are using. 
> > So, the community should define the ONLY VFS error first.
> 
> I think that's been done, and the VFS behavior is "if the FS reports
> an error we pass it up to userspace".

Then,from userspace, V (of VFS) loses its meaning, because the
error is FS-related, not FS-unrelated.

regards,
----
Qu Fuping 



  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-17  5:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-16 17:14 [RFD] What error should FS return when I/O failure occurs? fs
2005-05-16  6:35 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-16 18:04   ` fs
2005-05-16 17:58     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-17 16:47       ` fs [this message]
     [not found]         ` <200505171057.10540.vda@ilport.com.ua>
2005-05-17 19:41           ` fs
2005-05-16 20:11   ` Kenichi Okuyama
2005-05-16 20:35     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-16 21:39       ` Kenichi Okuyama
2005-05-16 22:04         ` Brad Boyer
2005-05-16 22:30         ` Elladan
2005-05-17  6:17           ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-17 18:10             ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-18  6:54               ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-17 21:26           ` Kenichi Okuyama
2005-05-19 15:44             ` Elladan
2005-05-16 22:57         ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-05-16 22:54     ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-05-17 16:06       ` fs
2005-05-16 17:36 ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-16 18:04 ` Bryan Henderson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-17  5:36 Hua Zhong (hzhong)
2005-05-17 16:55 ` fs
2005-05-17  6:00 Hua Zhong (hzhong)
2005-05-17 17:20 ` fs
     [not found] <05May16.114248edt.32448@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2005-05-17 15:43 ` fs
2005-05-17 18:26   ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-18 17:10     ` fs
2005-05-18  7:57       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-18 19:06       ` Bryan Henderson

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