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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Marc Ballarin <Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Calling suspend() in halt/restart/shutdown -> not a good idea
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 22:08:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1122926885.30257.4.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050801203728.2012f058.Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de>

On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 20:37 +0200, Marc Ballarin wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 17:09:31 +0200
> Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi !
> > 
> > Why are we calling driver suspend routines in these ? This is _not_ a
> > good idea ! On various machines, the mecanisms for shutting down are
> > quite different from suspend/resume, and current drivers have too many
> > bugs to make that safe. I keep getting all sort of reports of machines
> > not shutting down anymore.
> 
> For example, my Centrino laptop will restart instead of power down with
> -mm kernels.
> 
> To "fix" this I can either:
> - unplug power. Shutdown works when on battery power.
> - attach an external USB hard disk => power down always works.
> - remove device_suspend(PMSG_SUSPEND) => power down always works.-

Yes, this is just one of the gazillion setup that got broken by this
change. Drivers already have a shutdown() callback anyway, and if we
want to re-use the suspend one, then we need to define some sane
parameter, not "fake" a system suspend.

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-01 20:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-01 15:09 Calling suspend() in halt/restart/shutdown -> not a good idea Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-01 18:37 ` Marc Ballarin
2005-08-01 20:08   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2005-08-02  9:54     ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-03 11:40       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-03 16:53         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-03 19:59           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-04 20:56           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-04 21:04         ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02  9:53 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02 14:40   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-08-02 14:45     ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-03 11:43       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-03 11:43     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-03 11:38   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-04  2:27     ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-02 10:04 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-03 11:41   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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