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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	"Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" <kernel@pankajraghav.com>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	willy@infradead.org, Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	mcgrof@kernel.org, gost.dev@samsung.com, hch@lst.de,
	Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] add persistent huge zero folio support
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:52:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <112b4bcd-230a-4482-ae2e-67fa22b3596f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfb01243-7251-444c-8ac6-d76666742aa9@redhat.com>

On 11.08.25 11:49, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 11.08.25 11:43, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 10:41:08AM +0200, Pankaj Raghav (Samsung) wrote:
>>> From: Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
>>>
>>> Many places in the kernel need to zero out larger chunks, but the
>>> maximum segment we can zero out at a time by ZERO_PAGE is limited by
>>> PAGE_SIZE.
>>>
>>> This concern was raised during the review of adding Large Block Size support
>>> to XFS[2][3].
>>>
>>> This is especially annoying in block devices and filesystems where
>>> multiple ZERO_PAGEs are attached to the bio in different bvecs. With multipage
>>> bvec support in block layer, it is much more efficient to send out
>>> larger zero pages as a part of single bvec.
>>>
>>> Some examples of places in the kernel where this could be useful:
>>> - blkdev_issue_zero_pages()
>>> - iomap_dio_zero()
>>> - vmalloc.c:zero_iter()
>>> - rxperf_process_call()
>>> - fscrypt_zeroout_range_inline_crypt()
>>> - bch2_checksum_update()
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Usually huge_zero_folio is allocated on demand, and it will be
>>> deallocated by the shrinker if there are no users of it left. At the moment,
>>> huge_zero_folio infrastructure refcount is tied to the process lifetime
>>> that created it. This might not work for bio layer as the completions
>>> can be async and the process that created the huge_zero_folio might no
>>> longer be alive. And, one of the main point that came during discussion
>>> is to have something bigger than zero page as a drop-in replacement.
>>>
>>> Add a config option PERSISTENT_HUGE_ZERO_FOLIO that will always allocate
>>> the huge_zero_folio, and disable the shrinker so that huge_zero_folio is
>>> never freed.
>>> This makes using the huge_zero_folio without having to pass any mm struct and does
>>> not tie the lifetime of the zero folio to anything, making it a drop-in
>>> replacement for ZERO_PAGE.
>>>
>>> I have converted blkdev_issue_zero_pages() as an example as a part of
>>> this series. I also noticed close to 4% performance improvement just by
>>> replacing ZERO_PAGE with persistent huge_zero_folio.
>>>
>>> I will send patches to individual subsystems using the huge_zero_folio
>>> once this gets upstreamed.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to some feedback.
>>
>> Why does it need to be compile-time? Maybe whoever needs huge zero page
>> would just call get_huge_zero_page()/folio() on initialization to get it
>> pinned?
> 
> That's what v2 did, and this way here is cleaner.

Sorry, RFC v2 I think. It got a bit confusing with series names/versions.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-11  9:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-11  8:41 [PATCH v3 0/5] add persistent huge zero folio support Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11  8:41 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] mm: rename huge_zero_page to huge_zero_folio Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11  8:41 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] mm: rename MMF_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE to MMF_HUGE_ZERO_FOLIO Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11  8:41 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] mm: add persistent huge zero folio Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11  8:41 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] mm: add largest_zero_folio() routine Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11  8:41 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] block: use largest_zero_folio in __blkdev_issue_zero_pages() Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11  9:35   ` Pankaj Raghav
2025-08-11  9:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11  9:43 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] add persistent huge zero folio support Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-11  9:49   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11  9:52     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-08-11 10:07       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-11 10:09         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-11 10:17           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-11 10:21             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-11 10:36               ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-08-11 10:38                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-11 10:43                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-18  6:57                   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-11 10:19         ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-11 10:12       ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-12  3:52         ` Ritesh Harjani

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