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From: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
To: Gerrit Huizenga <gh@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
	Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>,
	CKRM-Tech <ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSE <lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	vserver@list.linux-vserver.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	pagg@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] Re: [RFC][patch 00/21] PID Virtualization: Overview and Patches
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:35:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1134754519.19403.6.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1En6H2-0005ok-00@w-gerrit.beaverton.ibm.com>

On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 19:28 -0800, Gerrit Huizenga wrote:
> In the pid virtualization, I would think that tasks can move between
> containers as well,

I don't think tasks can not be permitted to move between containers.  As
a simple exercise, imagine that you have two processes with the same
pid, one in container A and one in container B.  You wish to have them
both run in container A.  They can't both have the same pid.  What do
you do?

I've been talking a lot lately about how important filesystem isolation
between containers is to implement containers properly.  Isolating the
filesystem namespaces makes it much easier to do things like fs-based
shared memory during a checkpoint/resume.  If we want to allow tasks to
move around, we'll have to throw out this entire concept.  That means
that a _lot_ of things get a notch closer to the too-costly-to-implement
category.

-- Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-16 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-15 14:35 [RFC][patch 00/21] PID Virtualization: Overview and Patches Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:35 ` [RFC][patch 01/21] PID Virtualization: const parameter for process group Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:35 ` [RFC][patch 02/21] PID Virtualization: task virtual pid access functions Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 03/21] PID Virtualization: return virtual pids where required Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 04/21] PID Virtualization: return virtual process group ids Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 05/21] PID Virtualization: code enhancements for virtual pids in /proc Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 06/21] PID Virtualization: Define pid_to_vpid functions Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 07/21] PID Virtualization: Use pid_to_vpid conversion functions Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 08/21] PID Virtualization: file owner pid virtualization Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 09/21] PID Virtualization: define vpid_to_pid functions Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 10/21] PID Virtualization: Use " Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 11/21] PID Virtualization: use vpgid_to_pgid function Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 12/21] PID Virtualization: Context for pid_to_vpid conversition functions Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 13/21] PID Virtualization: Documentation Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 14/21] PID Virtualization: pidspace Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 15/21] PID Virtualization: container object and functions Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 16/21] PID Virtualization: container attach/detach calls Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 17/21] PID Virtualization: /proc/container filesystem Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 18/21] PID Virtualization: Implementation of low level virtualization functions Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 19/21] PID Virtualization: Handle special case vpid return cases Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 20/21] PID Virtualization: per container /proc filesystem Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 14:36 ` [RFC][patch 21/21] PID Virtualization: pidspace parent : signal behavior Hubertus Franke
2005-12-15 19:49 ` [RFC][patch 00/21] PID Virtualization: Overview and Patches Gerrit Huizenga
2005-12-15 20:02   ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2005-12-15 20:12     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-12-15 22:52     ` Matt Helsley
2005-12-15 22:02   ` Hubertus Franke
2005-12-16  2:20   ` [ckrm-tech] " Matt Helsley
2005-12-16  3:28     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-12-16 17:35       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2005-12-16 20:45         ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-12-16 21:10           ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-16 23:40             ` Hubertus Franke
2005-12-16 23:47         ` Hubertus Franke
2005-12-17  1:18           ` Matt Helsley
2005-12-17  3:03             ` [Lse-tech] " Hubertus Franke
2005-12-17  1:38       ` Matt Helsley

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