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From: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RT] bad BUG_ON in rtmutex.c
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:51:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1145371913.5447.48.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1145370733.17085.110.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 10:32 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> 
> Actually, where that BUG_ON was is the exiting of the chain walk. So it
> does stop.  It's the higher priority task that needs to be continuing
> the chain walk for that problem to occur.  So really, it already does
> what you suggest :)

I bet you could test for that condition in some other spots too . Like
when it adds to the pi_waiters , you could test if the priorities are
out of sync ..

> > 
> > > To keep latencies down, we are letting the PI chain walk be preempted,
> > > by releasing locks.  It's understood that the chain can then change
> > > while walking (big debate about this between Ingo, tglx and Esben).  But
> > > at the end, we decided on it being better to have latencies down, and
> > > just make adjustments when they arise.  This also keeps the latencies
> > > bounded, since the old way was harder to know the worst case (PI chain
> > > creep).
> > 
> > I can imagine. Seems like PI is always a point of controversy .
> 
> But, as PI matures, it seems to be more and more acceptable.

	I read an article on priority ceiling as another method of doing this.
Priority ceiling doesn't seem better, but at the same time I can't
imagine how you'd implement it in Linux, or not in a straight forward
way .

> Also, I always test on SMP (then I test on UP) and the chain walkers
> were on two CPUs.

Yeah, best policy, I've learned ..

Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-18 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-18  1:48 [RT] bad BUG_ON in rtmutex.c Steven Rostedt
2006-04-18 12:20 ` Daniel Walker
2006-04-18 12:34   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-04-18 13:11     ` Daniel Walker
2006-04-18 13:50       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-04-18 13:55         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-04-18 14:09         ` Daniel Walker
2006-04-18 14:32           ` Steven Rostedt
2006-04-18 14:51             ` Daniel Walker [this message]
2006-04-18 13:52               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-18 15:06               ` Steven Rostedt
2006-04-18 16:14                 ` Daniel Walker
2006-04-18 16:24                   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-04-18 14:13 ` [PATCH -rt] Remove false BUG_ON from rtmutex.c Steven Rostedt
2006-04-18 13:12   ` Ingo Molnar

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