From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] selinux: enable authoritative granting of capabilities
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:00:19 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <114874.10803.qm@web36601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Line.LNX.4.64.0706111810210.1336@d.namei>
--- James Morris <jmorris@namei.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>
> > and dealing with interactions with them. My only concern is that you
> > seem to be sneaking around the "additional restrictions" LSM model,
> > with the justification being that the bit you're taking authority over
> > is also an LSM module.
>
> SELinux itself stacks capabilities as a secondary module, and thus already
> has full authority over the LSM in the coarse sense of whether it is
> actually loaded or not.
You betcha. To date it has always respected the denials generated by
the mechanism, however. If the leading advanced security scheme (SELinux)
asserts authority over another scheme (capabilities) such that the
latter is perceived to behave differently when the system has been
"secured" (even though it is in fact SELinux that is changing its
behavior) the untrained observer may reasonably assume that the "new"
behavior is more secure than the old even though it may actually be
less restrictive.
I would prefer that the pretext of "stacking" with capabilities be
abandoned if the plan is to ignore the "additional restrictions"
rule. As you say, SELinux already has full authority over
capabilities by virtue of linkage and the lack of real stacking.
Casey Schaufler
casey@schaufler-ca.com
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Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-11 19:55 [RFC][PATCH] selinux: enable authoritative granting of capabilities Stephen Smalley
2007-06-11 20:39 ` James Morris
2007-06-11 20:43 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-11 21:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-11 22:20 ` James Morris
2007-06-12 0:00 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2007-06-12 11:46 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-11 22:24 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-12 9:20 ` Russell Coker
2007-06-12 15:44 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-12 15:57 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-13 11:16 ` Russell Coker
2007-06-13 12:31 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-14 9:44 ` Russell Coker
2007-06-14 11:03 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-14 14:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-14 14:54 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-06-14 13:54 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-14 14:50 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-06-14 15:05 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-12 11:43 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-12 11:31 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-12 9:27 ` Russell Coker
2007-06-12 12:09 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-12 12:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-12 15:08 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-12 15:33 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-12 16:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-12 17:49 ` James Morris
2007-06-12 19:56 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-12 16:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-12 13:24 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-12 20:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-12 21:12 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-13 14:31 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-13 15:06 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-06-13 15:28 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-13 18:46 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-06-13 19:20 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-14 19:19 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-06-15 11:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-13 19:10 ` Eric Paris
2007-06-13 19:22 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-13 19:50 ` Daniel J Walsh
2007-06-13 20:00 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-13 20:22 ` Daniel J Walsh
2007-06-12 13:32 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-14 15:40 ` Chad Sellers
2007-06-14 15:55 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-14 16:03 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-14 16:13 ` Karl MacMillan
2007-06-14 16:52 ` James Morris
2007-06-14 17:28 ` Chad Sellers
2007-06-14 17:35 ` James Morris
2007-06-14 17:43 ` Chad Sellers
2007-06-14 17:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-14 20:02 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-14 17:46 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-14 18:18 ` James Morris
2007-06-14 15:55 ` Karl MacMillan
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