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From: Ben Collins <bcollins@ubuntu.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	weihs@ict.tuwien.ac.at, linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	bcollins@debian.org, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kthread conversion: convert ieee1394 from kernel_thread
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:08:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1149962931.4448.557.camel@grayson> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060610163859.GA24081@infradead.org>

On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 17:38 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 12:34:46PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > 1394 bus rescanning takes a _lot_ longer than a PCI rescan. If we don't
> > do this in a kthread, then we have to do it as a tasklet, and take a
> > chance of stalling for a few seconds (not ms), preventing other
> > tasklet's from running. Suboptimal, IMO.
> 
> This is just user-initiated FC rescans.  And I doubt they take as long
> as parallel scsi rescans which can go into the minutes range easily.
> Nothing will be stalled by calling this except the caller, which would
> usually be echo called from some shell, something the user can put in
> the background using job control.

Most rescans are initiated by a bus reset (usually caused by a
connect/disconnect of a device) that is detected in interrupt.
Obviously, we cannot initiate these rescans in interrupt, so a tasklet
or kthread is the only option.

The reason for handling user-initiated rescans (through some sysfs
interface?) and hardware-initiated rescans in the same place is code
simplicity, and synchronization.

I'm not sure what your implying about user-initiated rescans. The only
thing I can think of is device/driver binding, which isn't handled in
our kernel thread anyway (except where it's a new device being detected,
as opposed to a new driver being loaded).

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-10 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-10 14:31 [PATCH] kthread conversion: convert ieee1394 from kernel_thread Serge E. Hallyn
2006-06-10 14:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-10 15:11   ` Stefan Richter
2006-06-10 15:42     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-10 16:34       ` Ben Collins
2006-06-10 16:38         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-10 18:08           ` Ben Collins [this message]
2006-06-10 18:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-17 18:44               ` Stefan Richter
2006-06-18 10:29                 ` Stefan Richter
2006-06-18 16:57                 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 0/6] ieee1394: nodemgr: misc API conversions Stefan Richter
2006-06-18 16:57                   ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 1/6] ieee1394: nodemgr: remove unnecessary includes Stefan Richter
2006-06-18 16:59                     ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 2/6] ieee1394: do not spawn a kernel_thread for user-initiated bus rescan Stefan Richter
2006-06-18 17:00                       ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 3/6] ieee1394: make module parameter ignore_drivers writable Stefan Richter
2006-06-18 17:02                         ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 4/6] ieee1394: nodemgr: switch to kthread API Stefan Richter
2006-06-18 17:03                           ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 5/6] ieee1394: nodemgr: replace reset semaphore Stefan Richter
2006-06-18 17:05                             ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 6/6] ieee1394: convert nodemgr_serialize semaphore to mutex Stefan Richter
2006-06-10 18:12           ` [PATCH] kthread conversion: convert ieee1394 from kernel_thread Stefan Richter

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