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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Mike Touloumtzis <miket@bluemug.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@innominate.de>,
	Helge Hafting <helgehaf@idb.hist.no>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 16:57:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11503.978713862@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010105085514.A12902@bluemug.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010105085514.A12902@bluemug.com>  <Pine.LNX.4.31.0101040954040.10387-100000@dlang.diginsite.com> <E14EEr4-000697-00@the-village.bc.nu>


miket@bluemug.com said:
>  Many newer cell phones, even low spec ones, will have a software
> power switch (usually with a hardware override after about 5 seconds
> of continuous press).  There are many other concessions that need to
> be made to power efficiency, like the ability to toggle power to even
> very minor peripherals and chips (not only each CPU and DSP, but the
> bus controllers and UARTs connecting things together).  These things
> sell in the millions, so their designers can easily budget the custom
> logic.

Even if it only costs pennies - why on earth would someone want to add 
logic to a board when they could just fix the software?

It soon adds up when you ship a million units.

--
dwmw2


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-05 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-03 12:55 Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown? Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-03 15:26 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-03 15:38   ` Michael Rothwell
2001-01-03 16:18   ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-03 16:27   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-03 16:42     ` Alex Belits
2001-01-04  8:00       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-04 17:39         ` Alex Belits
2001-01-03 18:52     ` Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-04  9:57       ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-04 10:14         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-04 10:25           ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 17:43           ` David Lang
2001-01-04 17:52             ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 18:00               ` David Lang
2001-01-04 18:11                 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05  4:12                   ` Chipzz
2001-01-05  4:18                     ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05 16:55                   ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-01-05 16:57                   ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2001-01-05 22:09                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-04 17:59             ` Alan Cox
2001-01-04 18:10               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-04 18:15                 ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 18:19                   ` David Lang
2001-01-04 18:20                     ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 19:42                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-04 20:31                         ` egger
2001-01-04 20:59                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-04 21:05                             ` egger
2001-01-04 22:45                             ` Erik Mouw
2001-01-04 18:23                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-05 12:04                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 18:21               ` Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-04 18:11             ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 21:00         ` Brett G. Person
2001-01-05 22:05         ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-04 19:21     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-04 21:08       ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-04 22:49         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05  1:01           ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-05  8:10             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-05 11:05             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05 11:58         ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-06 19:57           ` Marc Lehmann
2001-01-06 20:09             ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-06 20:35               ` Chris Mason
2001-01-06 21:49                 ` Marc Lehmann
2001-01-08 12:02             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09  9:34               ` Roger Gammans
2001-01-05  0:31       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-05  8:00         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-05 12:46           ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05 12:59             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-05 13:22             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05 10:31         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
     [not found] <fa.e3022cv.v2ucim@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.naq8vev.74ai08@ifi.uio.no>
2001-01-04 22:38   ` Dan Maas
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2001-01-08 23:19 Bernd Eckenfels

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