From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Tomasz Torcz <zdzichu@irc.pl>,
Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>,
Thomas Glanzmann <sithglan@stud.uni-erlangen.de>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ext4 features (checksums)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 09:17:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1152001067.28597.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17577.43190.724583.146845@cse.unsw.edu.au>
Ar Maw, 2006-07-04 am 09:31 +1000, ysgrifennodd Neil Brown:
> It's been some years that I've felt that most 'logical volume
> management' really belongs in the filesystem.
> Why have a dm that chops devices up in to segments and assembles them to
> look like a big device, only to have that big device chopped up and
> presented as files. Seems like double handling to me.
Because the interface model is wrong ?
Various people have long said the model actually should look rather more
like
fs to block:
handle = alloc_extent(near_handle*, info)
write_extent(handle, buffer, offset, length)
read_extent(handle, buffer, offset, length)
free_extent(handle)
(probably with resize_extent)
This makes LVM, remapping, checksumming and the like all naturally slip
out of the fs but not into the block layer.
[Many very good points snipped]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-04 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-01 16:33 ext4 features Thomas Glanzmann
2006-07-01 17:07 ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-07-01 17:47 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2006-07-01 18:09 ` Claudio Martins
2006-07-01 18:59 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2006-07-01 18:17 ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-07-03 9:44 ` Gabor Gombas
2006-07-03 20:22 ` Helge Hafting
2006-07-03 20:55 ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-07-03 21:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-03 21:46 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-03 21:25 ` Diego Calleja
2006-07-03 22:17 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-04 14:45 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-04 16:35 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2006-07-04 18:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-04 19:40 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2006-07-05 13:35 ` Lew Palm
2006-07-03 23:01 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-04 9:14 ` Benny Amorsen
2006-07-05 4:21 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-05 5:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-05 5:45 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2006-07-07 14:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-05 10:38 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-07 14:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 17:45 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-07 21:30 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 10:52 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-08 10:55 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:19 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-08 11:23 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 18:45 ` Avi Kivity
2006-07-08 20:24 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-04 9:22 ` Petr Tesarik
2006-07-04 11:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-07-04 11:55 ` ext4 features (salvage) Petr Tesarik
[not found] ` <80294dc60607040508l1022d164ybe0ba10858e54f0c@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-04 12:31 ` Petr Tesarik
2006-07-04 12:42 ` Helge Hafting
2006-07-04 16:20 ` Matthew Frost
2006-07-04 15:25 ` ext4 features Pavel Machek
2006-07-05 4:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-03 21:46 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0607032354170.31747@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>
2006-07-04 14:37 ` Kernel recycler [was: ext4 features] Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-04 11:14 ` ext4 features Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-04 22:35 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2006-07-04 23:47 ` Claudio Martins
2006-07-03 22:12 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-03 21:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-03 23:31 ` ext4 features (checksums) Neil Brown
2006-07-04 1:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-04 6:09 ` Avi Kivity
2006-07-04 7:02 ` Neil Brown
2006-07-04 8:26 ` Avi Kivity
2006-07-05 11:56 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-05 12:06 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-05 12:19 ` Avi Kivity
2006-07-08 17:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-04 8:17 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-07-04 11:08 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2006-07-04 11:19 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-04 12:49 ` Helge Hafting
2006-07-05 12:01 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-05 12:10 ` Avi Kivity
2006-07-08 18:02 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-06 0:36 ` Blatant layering violations (was Re: ext4 features) Valerie Henson
2006-07-06 12:15 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-07-06 17:06 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-06 20:02 ` Tom Vier
2006-07-03 21:34 ` ext4 features Bill Davidsen
2006-07-03 21:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-03 22:04 ` Bruce Ferrell
2006-07-04 14:48 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-03 23:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-04 15:01 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-05 2:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-05 2:47 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-04 12:52 ` Helge Hafting
2006-07-06 15:12 ` Ric Wheeler
2006-07-06 17:05 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-06 17:27 ` Ric Wheeler
2006-07-06 20:52 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-07 17:41 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-07 17:34 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-04 1:02 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-04 19:16 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2006-07-04 19:30 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-05 12:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-05 12:59 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-05 13:17 ` Pádraig Brady
2006-07-05 19:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-05 21:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-05 21:42 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-08 21:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-10 20:08 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-10 22:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-11 2:36 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-21 3:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-21 12:06 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-21 14:36 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-21 19:02 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-22 12:25 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-05 21:12 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-05 21:27 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-07-05 21:41 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-06 2:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-06 2:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-06 12:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-07 2:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-07 2:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-07 2:42 ` Ric Wheeler
2006-07-07 2:46 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-07 3:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-07 8:09 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-07-07 14:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-07-07 19:52 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-05 14:04 ` Avi Kivity
2006-07-04 14:36 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 14:43 ` Thomas Glanzmann
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