From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lee Revell Subject: Re: OSS driver removal, 2nd round (v2) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:48:37 -0400 Message-ID: <1152571717.19047.36.camel@mindpipe> References: <20060707231716.GE26941@stusta.de> <1152458300.28129.45.camel@mindpipe> <20060710132810.551a4a8d.atlka@pg.gda.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net (viper.oldcity.dca.net [216.158.38.4]) by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) with SMTP id A4796153 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 00:49:00 +0200 (MEST) In-Reply-To: <20060710132810.551a4a8d.atlka@pg.gda.pl> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net To: Adam =?iso-8859-2?Q?Tla=B3ka?= Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, ak@suse.de, perex@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 13:28 +0200, Adam Tla=B3ka wrote: > >From my point of view ALSA has many advantages if you want to dig in > the card driver buffers/period etc. settings but lacks ease of use and > some of simple in theory functionality is a pain - device enumeration > or switching output mode/device without restarting apps or rewritting > them so they have special function for that purpose. > = Does any available sound driver interface allow switching output devices with no help from the app and without having to restart playback? OSS does not, and every Windows app I've used has a configuration option to set the sound device, and you must stop and start playback for it to take effect. > esd, arts, jackd, polypd and other prove that ALSA is not enough > and its functionality is far from perfect. > = esd and artsd are no longer needed since ALSA began to enable software mixing by default in release 1.0.9. As for jackd and other apps that provide additional functionality - no one ever claimed ALSA would handle every audio related function imaginable. It's just a low level HAL. Lee ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easi= er Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=3D1= 21642 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965301AbWGJWsu (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:48:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965306AbWGJWst (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:48:49 -0400 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:56268 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S965301AbWGJWss (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:48:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] OSS driver removal, 2nd round (v2) From: Lee Revell To: Adam =?iso-8859-2?Q?Tla=B3ka?= Cc: ak@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, perex@suse.cz, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk In-Reply-To: <20060710132810.551a4a8d.atlka@pg.gda.pl> References: <20060707231716.GE26941@stusta.de> <1152458300.28129.45.camel@mindpipe> <20060710132810.551a4a8d.atlka@pg.gda.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:48:37 -0400 Message-Id: <1152571717.19047.36.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 13:28 +0200, Adam Tlałka wrote: > >From my point of view ALSA has many advantages if you want to dig in > the card driver buffers/period etc. settings but lacks ease of use and > some of simple in theory functionality is a pain - device enumeration > or switching output mode/device without restarting apps or rewritting > them so they have special function for that purpose. > Does any available sound driver interface allow switching output devices with no help from the app and without having to restart playback? OSS does not, and every Windows app I've used has a configuration option to set the sound device, and you must stop and start playback for it to take effect. > esd, arts, jackd, polypd and other prove that ALSA is not enough > and its functionality is far from perfect. > esd and artsd are no longer needed since ALSA began to enable software mixing by default in release 1.0.9. As for jackd and other apps that provide additional functionality - no one ever claimed ALSA would handle every audio related function imaginable. It's just a low level HAL. Lee