From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lee Revell Subject: Re: OSS driver removal, 2nd round (v2) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:39:03 -0400 Message-ID: <1152578344.21909.12.camel@mindpipe> References: <20060707231716.GE26941@stusta.de> <1152458300.28129.45.camel@mindpipe> <20060710132810.551a4a8d.atlka@pg.gda.pl> <1152571717.19047.36.camel@mindpipe> <44B2E4FF.9000502@pg.gda.pl> <20060710235934.GC26528@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net (viper.oldcity.dca.net [216.158.38.4]) by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) with SMTP id C9276233 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:39:14 +0200 (MEST) In-Reply-To: <20060710235934.GC26528@dspnet.fr.eu.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net To: Olivier Galibert Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, ak@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, perex@suse.cz, Adam Tla?ka , alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 01:59 +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: > ALSA lib has something like 7 different methods just to play a sound. > Their view of "low level" is quite interesting. Using it is pure > hell. Debugging what you've done is worse. And don't bother to hope > that your code will still work in six months. > A small FAQ: Q: But OSS is kewl and ALSA sucks! A: The decision for the OSS->ALSA move was four years ago. If ALSA sucks, please help to improve ALSA. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751376AbWGKAjP (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:39:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751395AbWGKAjP (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:39:15 -0400 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:7131 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751376AbWGKAjO (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:39:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] OSS driver removal, 2nd round (v2) From: Lee Revell To: Olivier Galibert Cc: Adam Tla?ka , ak@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, perex@suse.cz, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk In-Reply-To: <20060710235934.GC26528@dspnet.fr.eu.org> References: <20060707231716.GE26941@stusta.de> <1152458300.28129.45.camel@mindpipe> <20060710132810.551a4a8d.atlka@pg.gda.pl> <1152571717.19047.36.camel@mindpipe> <44B2E4FF.9000502@pg.gda.pl> <20060710235934.GC26528@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:39:03 -0400 Message-Id: <1152578344.21909.12.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 01:59 +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: > ALSA lib has something like 7 different methods just to play a sound. > Their view of "low level" is quite interesting. Using it is pure > hell. Debugging what you've done is worse. And don't bother to hope > that your code will still work in six months. > A small FAQ: Q: But OSS is kewl and ALSA sucks! A: The decision for the OSS->ALSA move was four years ago. If ALSA sucks, please help to improve ALSA.