From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alan Cox Subject: Re: A proposal - binary Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:50:18 +0100 Message-ID: <1154778619.10971.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <44D1CC7D.4010600@vmware.com> <20060803190605.GB14237@kroah.com> <44D24DD8.1080006@vmware.com> <20060803200136.GB28537@kroah.com> <20060804183448.GE11244@sequoia.sous-sol.org> <44D3B0F0.2010409@vmware.com> <1154726800.23655.273.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1154740485.3683.161.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <44D42E7D.70101@vmware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <44D42E7D.70101@vmware.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: Zachary Amsden Cc: James Bottomley , Andrew Morton , xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Christoph Hellwig , Jack Lo , Greg KH , Rusty Russell , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andi Kleen , Chris Wright , virtualization@lists.osdl.org, Linus Torvalds , pazke@donpac.ru List-Id: virtualization@lists.linuxfoundation.org Ar Gwe, 2006-08-04 am 22:37 -0700, ysgrifennodd Zachary Amsden: > mentioned earlier. Is it a license violation for a GPL app to link > against a non-GPL library? Surely, the other way around is a problem, Actually the FSF always anticipated that case because its the same as the GPL app on non-free OS case and the GPL there says "However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need not include anything that is normally distributed (in either source or binary form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the operating system on which the executable runs, unless that component itself accompanies the executable." > interface, which gives it shape. So I prefer binary redirection > interface, or vDSO, or anything without the disparaged word "blob" in it. Well if you are going to provide the source then its not really a binary interface, its a jump table. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161108AbWHELbz (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:31:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161188AbWHELby (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:31:54 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:41453 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161108AbWHELby (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:31:54 -0400 Subject: Re: A proposal - binary From: Alan Cox To: Zachary Amsden Cc: James Bottomley , Chris Wright , Greg KH , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Christoph Hellwig , Rusty Russell , Jack Lo , virtualization@lists.osdl.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, pazke@donpac.ru, Andi Kleen In-Reply-To: <44D42E7D.70101@vmware.com> References: <44D1CC7D.4010600@vmware.com> <20060803190605.GB14237@kroah.com> <44D24DD8.1080006@vmware.com> <20060803200136.GB28537@kroah.com> <20060804183448.GE11244@sequoia.sous-sol.org> <44D3B0F0.2010409@vmware.com> <1154726800.23655.273.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1154740485.3683.161.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <44D42E7D.70101@vmware.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:50:18 +0100 Message-Id: <1154778619.10971.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 (2.6.2-1.fc5.5) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Ar Gwe, 2006-08-04 am 22:37 -0700, ysgrifennodd Zachary Amsden: > mentioned earlier. Is it a license violation for a GPL app to link > against a non-GPL library? Surely, the other way around is a problem, Actually the FSF always anticipated that case because its the same as the GPL app on non-free OS case and the GPL there says "However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need not include anything that is normally distributed (in either source or binary form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the operating system on which the executable runs, unless that component itself accompanies the executable." > interface, which gives it shape. So I prefer binary redirection > interface, or vDSO, or anything without the disparaged word "blob" in it. Well if you are going to provide the source then its not really a binary interface, its a jump table.